Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 1:38 PM |
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| Unfortunately Fergie, Midge and I tend to disagree with each other more often than not, so your mythical scenario doesn't really ring true. But nice try........again. Keep working at it though. |
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egami
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| 05/20/2008 1:42 PM |
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Unfortunate for Crit, because it makes him wrong most of the time...  |
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Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 1:44 PM |
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It is what it is.  |
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egami
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| 05/20/2008 1:47 PM |
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lol
Same Crit, different pile...er, same pile maybe.
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Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 1:56 PM |
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I sense a "beat up" dick fergie. Did I just type that? |
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egami
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| 05/20/2008 2:06 PM |
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| Purveyor of Pot Pies... |
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Fergie
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| 05/20/2008 3:04 PM |
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The desperation meter reads "OFF THE CHARTS" in regards to the Smothers Brothers act you two display.
How come I hear no laughter?
"Does anyone remember laughter?" -Robert Plant, Led Zeppelin |
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Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 3:17 PM |
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No one lends more credibility to tired, old, burnt out theories of the past than you two
For instance, letting a disadvantaged handicap guy run the 400 meters at his county's olympic trials?
Or should we just stick to the tired, old, burnt out theory of letting the handicaps do the "Para-Olympic" thing and the "normal" people doing the regular olympics?
You've been reaching for the last week dick. Dare I say desperation.
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Omahan
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| 05/20/2008 3:19 PM |
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Just found this Joba quote online, "Enthusiasm is contagious! So if they want to say bad things about me because I am enthusiastic, then I can accept that."
While I appreciate his spirit - he is definitely a bit misguided. |
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egami
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| 05/20/2008 3:27 PM |
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| Sounds like to me, and many paid, professional analysts, that Gossage may be a bit misguided. |
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Fergie
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| 05/20/2008 3:40 PM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 05/20/2008 3:17 PM
For instance, letting a disadvantaged handicap guy run the 400 meters at his county's olympic trials?
That is my stern position re:amputee's running against fully legged persons.
I have no problem with my stance re: Level Playing Fields.
quote]No one lends more credibility to tired, old, burnt out theories of the past than you two
It is tired, old and burnt to think fantasylandish and believe that it could be okay for abnormal athletes to compete against normal athletes on a regular basis.
Consistency across the board. You cannot make an exception for one and not the other.
LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
You'll never absorb the concept because you stuck on tired, old and burnt.
Posted By Crit40 on 05/20/2008 3:17 PM
Or should we just stick to the tired, old, burnt out theory of letting the handicaps do the "Para-Olympic" thing and the "normal" people doing the regular olympics?
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Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 3:54 PM |
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You keep chirping "level playing field", however you've never answered the question. If Amputee Oscar doesn't care that the playing field is unlevel to his disadvantage (which you conceded to), then where is the problem?
If there was a downs syndrome kid who could power-lift with the best of them, would that be a problem too?
Would it be different for you if he were missing arms instead of legs?
I'm just curious what your stance REALLY is?
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egami
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| 05/20/2008 3:57 PM |
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Posted By Fergie on 05/20/2008 3:40 PM
It is tired, old and burnt to think fantasylandish and believe that it could be okay for abnormal athletes to compete against normal athletes on a regular basis.
See, this is where you cross the line of being deliberately obtuse and directly discriminatory.
On one hand you keep claiming to be worried about a level playing field to protect the athletes who aren't using prosthetics, but you keep making comments that state that these impaired athletes will never be able to compete.
That's contradictory.
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Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 4:01 PM |
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| Yeah, I love the "abnormal athletes" comment. Telling of the character of the individual who typed it. |
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Fergie
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| 05/20/2008 4:29 PM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 05/20/2008 3:17 PM
Or should we just stick to the tired, old, burnt out theory of letting the handicaps do the "Para-Olympic" thing and the "normal" people doing the regular olympics?
1st item: The "abnormal" comment came from critters "normal" comment.(see above) And so....there you go!
2nd item: My answer to your question critter is Amputee Oscar's opinion of how this should be ruled is peripheral, if you view the whole situation as part of a larger structure. Whether or not Oscar has any ability at all has no bearing on my theory.
3rd item: Level Playing Field is a concept. Not open to situational discretion. Each competition is different and so the criteria for each sport would be different. However, once established the level playing field should be honored strictly for the spirit of the competition.
I keep hearing you hammering this matter from the amputee's perspective. What about the other guys who run with two legs? What if they don't agree at all with having to compete against Oscar with his amputeeism?
Do their opinions matter? Or is this just a bleeding heart matter with you that you are stuck whining from a human spirit angle?
I think yes and I know you do not understand nor relate with Level Playing Fields as I see it.
egami, I've stopped considering some of your posts. The angle is all wrong. |
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Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 4:39 PM |
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I seriously doubt any world class athlete is going to suggest that he is concerned about running against a legless guy, but maybe you know something I don't. If they are, it might be out of fear of getting beat by a legless guy. After all, he has blades, but they all have nikes.
People really need to get over the uncomfortableness of working or playing next to a handicapped person.
Olympic officials have determined the playing field to be level in this case, and I guess they are the ones who really matter.
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Crit40
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| 05/20/2008 4:43 PM |
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And here is my problem with your comments suggesting that my way of thinking is old.....
once established the level playing field should be honored strictly for the spirit of the competition.
According to you, that "established level playing field" should never evolve. It should remain historically concrete, forever, which would essentially exclude future athletes of Oscar's abilities from ever competing, due to a disability that he had no control over having at birth. That's pretty damn close-minded if you ask me. |
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SeahawksSB42champs
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| 05/20/2008 4:43 PM |
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| The only one that has a handicap is Fergie/Omahan/Dumbass Dwight...and it's all between his ears, which means ANY competition he gets into with anyone on here that involves USE of that space between the ears AUTOMATICALLY puts him at a competitive disadvantage...a point that he proves every time he posts, regardless of the ID du jour he chooses. |
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Fergie
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| 05/20/2008 5:58 PM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 05/20/2008 4:39 PM
People really need to get over the uncomfortableness of working or playing next to a handicapped person.
I agree...but the workplace and athletic competition (especially at the highest levels) are two completely different and separate arenas.
I knew I smelled something rancid when I got back on here. Hello Seahawk.
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Omahan
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| 05/20/2008 6:14 PM |
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Posted By SeahawksSB42champs on 05/20/2008 4:43 PM
The only one that has a handicap is Fergie/Omahan/Dumbass Dwight...and it's all between his ears, which means ANY competition he gets into with anyone on here that involves USE of that space between the ears AUTOMATICALLY puts him at a competitive disadvantage...a point that he proves every time he posts, regardless of the ID du jour he chooses.
It seems more and more that when I read anything you post it is pure garbage.
How about an original thought that is not laced with personal malice toward anything and everything that has left you bitter.
Get over yourself Seahawk. I could care less what you think about anything let alone me. So having said that, I suggest you attend a meeting and take it one day at a time.
Don't strain your brain for a comeback because it will for sure be an overboard, distasteful piece of crap that only furthers my opinion of you as a hateful schmuck.
remember....i do not care what you think.
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