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Subject: New team, same John Calipari

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egami
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04/09/2008 9:09 AM Alert 
The main credit I really give to Kansas goes to Self for not calling a time out himself. I think Calipari was surprised by that move. And I hate it, hate it, hate it when offense calls a time out in that situation and gives the defense time to set up.

Nope, he let his team go down and win. Momentum is the offense's favor in that situation. You coach your kids that way and force defense to call the time out so THEY can setup.

Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami.
vranged
Posts:2813

04/09/2008 10:41 AM Alert 
Everybody keeps blaming Memphis. How about Kansas making every single play down the stretch? It had to work out almost perfectly for the Jayhawks, and they executed incredibly. Chalmers made a very difficult shot, in a great pressure situation, with a defender playing solid defense. Does he make that 2 out of 10 times? The Jayhawks came though more than Memphis "choked", in my opinion.

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
egami
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04/09/2008 10:46 AM Alert 
Posted By vranged on 04/09/2008 10:41 AM
Everybody keeps blaming Memphis. How about Kansas making every single play down the stretch? It had to work out almost perfectly for the Jayhawks, and they executed incredibly. Chalmers made a very difficult shot, in a great pressure situation, with a defender playing solid defense. Does he make that 2 out of 10 times? The Jayhawks came though more than Memphis "choked", in my opinion.




Because had Memphis played their cards right and executed just once more then none of KU's execution would have mattered. Memphis had the position to lock in the win and they failed. Without the failure, KU can execute all day long and they go home a loser.

Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami.
SeahawksSB42champs
Posts:1206

04/09/2008 10:48 AM Alert 
All Rose had to do was make that first free throw and the whole discussion is moot.

Crit40
Posts:2483

04/09/2008 12:38 PM Alert 
It was a combination of both, IMO.

Counting the Herd one hoof at a time.
egami
Posts:5392

04/09/2008 12:49 PM Alert 
Freakin' grow a pair and take a side!

I agree it's the perfect storm of the two. I don't think vranged's point is invalid, but I think if push comes to shove, considering the position they were in and having the upper hand, ultimately it's their mistake that opens the door.

Doesn't really matter...

Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami.
Crit40
Posts:2483

04/09/2008 12:51 PM Alert 
I'm a Centrist by nature.

Counting the Herd one hoof at a time.
egami
Posts:5392

04/09/2008 12:53 PM Alert 
I'm an Antagonist by nature.

Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami.
vranged
Posts:2813

04/09/2008 12:58 PM Alert 
Memphis's mistakes are amplified because of their timing. Kansas didn't play very well earlier in the game, but peaked at the right time. Memphis played better earlier, but made mistakes at the wrong time. It's a combination.

But I still think Kansas won the game, because they made the plays. Yes, the plays were relevant b/c of Memphis's mistakes, but that's basketball. Every team makes mistakes, and the opponent has to capitalize. KU did, and are National Champions.

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Crit40
Posts:2483

04/09/2008 1:17 PM Alert 
I whole heartedly agree with your assessment Vranged, although I actually thought KU played decent the first half. They were leading at half-time. They fell apart in the second half and got a second wind in the final 3 minutes, where Memphis hit the wall.

KU hit the shots they needed in the end, at the hands of Memphis mistakes. It's a game.....sh!t happens.

Counting the Herd one hoof at a time.
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