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| 04/15/2008 10:07 AM |
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Not what I think they'll be, but if I play GM for these teams, here is my Top Ten:
1. Jake Long - OT - Michigan
The Dolphins almost can't go wrong here. This is a talented draft and they have needs all over. Tuna shouldn't, and won't, invest his reputation in a questionable Matt Ryan selection. He'll go with more of a sure thing and since the offensive anchor is arguably their biggest need, Jake fits the bill (but, I still personally think he is drafting defense).
2. Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU
I would take Dorsey over Long for the Rams, personally. I know Long is touted by many as being the higher pick, but my gut feels Dorsey comes in and makes a bigger impact. They need a run stopper.
3. Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
Yes, I pass on QB for Atlanta and get immediate help on defense at the DT position with a guy who is NFL ready. They need to stop the run and this guy will be a guy that can plug holes and make plays.
4. Vernon Gholston - DE - Ohio St.
Oakland will undoubtedly squander this pick on something they don't need, but thankfully I don't report to Al Davis. I like Gholston better than Long, so I take him for Oakland.
5. Ryan Clady - OT - Boise State
Brandon Albert is gaining in popularity, but I still like Clady best. This guy is quality LT material and LT is going to be important if the Chiefs ever decide to pass again.
6. Chris Long - DE - Virginia
The Jets need a DE, Long is the best available and he can make an immediate impact. It'd be tempting to take McFadden, but Chris Long is too good, too solid of a pick at an obvious need to pass up.
7. Darren McFadden - RB - Arkansas
Nope, the Patriots don't need a RB. Then need a CB and LBer's, but there aren't any worth taking. If I Belichick I am jumping at this opportunity to take a McFadden who is a dynamic addition to an already dangerous offense.
8. Brandon Albert - OG/OT - virginia
Baltimore needs help in numerous places, but they need to get the running game opened up more and protection for their QB.
9. Keith Rivers - LB - USC
Bengals need defensive help more than anything. If they weren't so anemic on D I'd take Mendenhall here for them, but they HAVE to address D in Cincy.
10. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CB - Tenn St.
They need CB worse than anything and R-C provides them with a player who could be an impact player immediately. New Orleans ranked almost dead last in pass defense and they need to fix that to compete. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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| 04/15/2008 10:38 AM |
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| Picking an OT 1 or 2 brings back memories of Robert Gallery or Tony Mandarich. Can't go wrong you say? |
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| 04/15/2008 12:53 PM |
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| Ted Ginn was a pretty productive rookie last year, on special teams. Some compare him to Steve Smith (CAR), who also started out as a returner, but slowly made his way as a receiver. Still can't believe they passed on Brady Quinn there though. Quinn's reaction was painful to watch. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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| 04/15/2008 1:20 PM |
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Yeah, that was mostly "joking".
I actually mildly defended the Ginn pick last year when it happened as not being "that bad". Although, I still think we'll look back and say they could of made a more quality pick at that point in the draft.
I don't think he'll bust, but conversely...I don't think he'll be the next Steve Smith. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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| 04/15/2008 10:30 PM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 04/15/2008 10:38 AM
Picking an OT 1 or 2 brings back memories of Robert Gallery or Tony Mandarich. Can't go wrong you say?
Gallery still starts, remember its the "Raiders"!
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| 04/16/2008 7:48 AM |
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I have mixed feelings on Gallery. On one hand, I think he'd of busted anyway, at least in relation to his draft position and on the other hand, as Excuster said, it's Oakland. I do think he'd of been more serviceable elsewhere.
And, actually, while Oakland has been atrocious, they did assemble one of the top running offenses in the league last year. If they continue with that this season and add to their passing attack they could be very tough in that division. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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| 04/16/2008 9:54 AM |
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| As far as Matt Ryan goes, given the way the last couple of drafts have gone with respect to QB's, I could see Ryan getting escorted to the green room at about the 13th pick, and then called back out when my Bears select him at No. 14. |
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| 04/16/2008 10:01 AM |
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| I honestly think Carolina is about right for him, but he should NOT slip past Chicago. Then again, that may be a curse. They haven't had a QB that mattered since they won the SB in what...1985? |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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| 04/16/2008 10:44 AM |
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| Oh, honestly, I think he will go in the top 10 for sure, maybe even top 5, but I DO recall expected top 10 picks Leinart and Quinn falling on draft day wishing they had not accepted the invitation to attend the event personally in NY. |
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| 04/16/2008 11:17 AM |
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Oh, I think he'll go in the top ten, but I still think Carolina is about right for where he should go.
But, yeah, QB's slipping has started to become a bit of a trend, maybe most notably since Rodgers slipped a few years back.
I think teams are learning that drafting a QB early is a big gamble for reasons I mentioned in the other threads and that if they are going to invest early they better be committed.
I think that's why Chicago is having a hard time letting go. Which makes you wonder, will they take him if he falls that far?
Honestly, he is set up for falling because of all the QB talent at the top of this draft available at the top of round two. But, I think someone will bite and I think it'll be Baltimore. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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| 04/16/2008 12:54 PM |
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| Actually, I should revise that, I could see KC taking him at #5...even though they shouldn't. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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| 04/21/2008 4:37 PM |
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John Clayton is reporting the CHiefs may trade Jared Allen (arguably their best player) for two first round picks. Since Allen has said he's not re-signing, I say get what you can. That's a big haul for a guy after a career year.
Bugeater, I know you're a fan. THoughts? |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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| 04/21/2008 4:51 PM |
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| Yes, I believe they are dealing with Minnesota? Or do I have that wrong? I guess I say get what you can for him while he still has value to your team. I assume that would be a 1st rounder this year with the deal completed with next year's draft? |
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| 04/21/2008 5:01 PM |
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| I guess I should read my NFL news before I pop off. Childress is on record saying he would not give up 2 1st round picks for Jared Allen (which is what they would have to give up if they signed him this year and KC didn't want to match the contract terms.) KC slapped the franchise label on him for this season. |
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| 04/21/2008 10:50 PM |
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Posted By vranged on 04/21/2008 4:37 PM
John Clayton is reporting the CHiefs may trade Jared Allen (arguably their best player) for two first round picks. Since Allen has said he's not re-signing, I say get what you can. That's a big haul for a guy after a career year.
Bugeater, I know you're a fan. THoughts?
I'm torn. I hate to see the guy go, but there's no way he should get Freeney-type money when he's one DUI away from a year's suspension, and he just opened a bar in KC.
Crit, if KC works out a trade with MIN before any contract offer is made to JA, then MIN doesn't necessarily have to give up the two 1st rounders. The two 1sts only applies if MIN makes a contract offer that KC can't or won't match. It's complicated. |
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| 04/22/2008 7:38 AM |
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That doesn't right to me...iirc, he is a restricted FA that was franshised and can be "taken away" from KC for two first rounders because he hasn't signed yet with KC.
Anyway, personally, since KC isn't going anywhere soon....fire sale, imo. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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| 04/22/2008 9:22 AM |
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Since Allen has indicated he doesn't want to be in KC, and if you can get 2 high draft picks, I say you let him go.
If they could find a taker for Larry Johnson at a nice price (good young player and 1st or 2nd rounder), I don't think it would be a bad move to move him either. Johnson was the benefactor of one of the better O-lines in the league. It's gone. I think he's only an above-average back, as opposed to the 2,000 yard back his O-line made him. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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| 04/22/2008 9:42 AM |
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Posted By egami on 04/22/2008 7:38 AM
That doesn't right to me...iirc, he is a restricted FA that was franshised and can be "taken away" from KC for two first rounders because he hasn't signed yet with KC.
Anyway, personally, since KC isn't going anywhere soon....fire sale, imo.
Yes, he can be "taken away" but the Vikes don't want to give up the two 1sts, at least not right now. There's been rumors that they may wait until after the draft and make the offer with a poison pill, and then give up their firsts in '09 and '10. Meanwhile KC still retains his rights and are free to trade him.
As far as LJ, he's virtually untradeable at this time due to the large contract he got last year. The Chiefs would take a huge cap hit if they did plus they'd be out the signing bonus. However, if there ever was a time to cut & run, it's now, but Carl 's ego won't allow him to trade one of the few good players he's drafted. The only reason he's considering it with JA is because of the DWIs, and his personal differences with him over the contract negotiations. JA hasn't done himself too many favors in this whole deal. |
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| 04/22/2008 10:01 AM |
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*edit* Never mind the first part...
At any rate, I am not sure Minnesota would be out anything...he's non-exclusively franchised, so either Minnesota makes him a better offer and gives up the picks, or KC matches it, retains the rights and Minnesota forfeits nothing. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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