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DMan
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| 10/06/2007 11:43 AM |
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| Adolph "Big Timing" anyone is absolutely hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you nimwits serious? |
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reideen
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| 10/07/2007 9:41 AM |
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In an article in today's OWH, Fahey is quoted:
Fahey highlighted Kansas City, Mo., when proposing the tax.
"Look at your bill," Fahey said. "You see a charge after the sales tax. This is not unprecedented."
The Kansas City metro area has a 2 percent restaurant and beverage tax, with the money earmarked to promote tourism and business.
In addition, voters last year approved a 3/8-cent sales tax increase to help pay for $500 million in improvements to Arrowhead and Kauffman Stadiums.
I've bolded the key words there...
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reideen
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| 10/11/2007 1:18 PM |
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Now Fahey is forming a committee to look at the feasibility of the downtown ballpark? And MECA chairman David Sokol sez Fahey walked away from a 10 year deal to keep the CWS at Rosenblatt for $26 million in improvements?!?
Is this an example of Fahey wanting to leave the stadium as his lasting legacy for his time in office?
In my opinion, that's exactly what it is. Until more info is released, I don't believe any plan should go thru. If it does and I'm not satisfied that every opportunity to save taxpayer $$ was explored, well, there are enough restaurants in Sarpy county - just down the street from where I live in Ralston - that I won't have to pay any additional tax and I can still eat out every night of the week if I so choose.
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egami
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| 10/11/2007 1:23 PM |
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| I would be all for legislation that requires a simple majority of registered voters to turn out for any vote on taxes outside of a normal election cycle. Too much of this crap gets pushed through on voting weekends that have distracting conflicts to get deliberately low voter turnout so they can shove something through. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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IrememberDukester
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| 10/11/2007 8:51 PM |
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Posted By reideen on 10/11/2007 1:18 PM
Now Fahey is forming a committee to look at the feasibility of the downtown ballpark? And MECA chairman David Sokol sez Fahey walked away from a 10 year deal to keep the CWS at Rosenblatt for $26 million in improvements?!?
Is this an example of Fahey wanting to leave the stadium as his lasting legacy for his time in office?
In my opinion, that's exactly what it is. Until more info is released, I don't believe any plan should go thru. If it does and I'm not satisfied that every opportunity to save taxpayer $$ was explored, well, there are enough restaurants in Sarpy county - just down the street from where I live in Ralston - that I won't have to pay any additional tax and I can still eat out every night of the week if I so choose.
Interesting editorial online in the neighboring paper (Nonpareil) in which the Editor loves the idea of the tax proposed by Fahey, in fact he anticipates many more people coming over to the Bluffs to dine, see movies (new IMAX), and just plain spend their money over in Iowa where the tax doesn't exist.
Once again C.B. profits, Omaha loses and the tax payers once again don't get to vote on it.
I love this country!
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Logan
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| 10/12/2007 1:00 PM |
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| before we know it coucil tucky will be growing faster than omaha. |
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dwight, refuting reality one post at a time. |
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TheCrusher
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| 10/12/2007 2:19 PM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 10/06/2007 8:34 AM Posted By TheCrusher on 10/05/2007 4:39 PM
Yea, I am not sure either. I know hotels, the old market, and eating establishments benefit, which is why I think Fahey went with the prepared foods tax. Hotels are already taxed high for Qwest and something else.
If you are not a baseball fan, then it is hard to imagine benefit unless you view the new ballpark as--provided the royals are there--a sports themed watering hole. But that is a stretch.
NCAA is working on becoming more family friendly. Some of the changes we have already seen (e.g. Reduction in liquor licenses) are part of this. They have a list of 'requests', as you said, but those will eventually become requirements as they did when we first started the major renovations to Rosenblatt. Some of the 'requests', I believe, would require essentially a new Rosenblatt to be built, because there is no easy way to renovate Rosenblatt, as is, to accomodate these. Open concourses for example. How do you think the tax system works? The hotels and restaurants "remit" the tax, but it is the PEOPLE who pay for it. When your room rate is $100 and your final bill is $135, the lessee pays the tab, not the hotel. Granted, with hotels, it's typically out of towners and Johns who pay that tab, but for restaurants, it's your local citizens. If you truly want those who benefit to pay, it will boil down to raising property taxes on the hotels and restaurants, in which they will just raise the prices......and the PEOPLE still pay for it. No matter how you slice it, the citizens of Omaha will pay for this new stadium. I'm with reideen on this one. Let donations and grants pay for the majority of it. Does the NCAA contribute above and beyond their lease agreement? Can the lease from the NCAA, Creighton, and maybe the Royals cover the P&I on the bonds as well as overhead costs? Many questions to be asked and answered. You Nebraskans are taxes way too high, just as us Minnesotans are. It sucks big time.  My contention all along has been the millions and millions of dollars socked into a stadium that the NCAA deams worthless for their needs. It would be like DMan building his $45K deck and then the city coming in and saying, sorry, but you can't live here anymore.
It kind of goes without saying that they are going to pass along the charges. I was responding to the idea of who benefits most from the CWS being here. I am torn on this....I dont like Rosenblatt. I just don't think it is that nice. The CWS makes Rosenblatt....not the other way around. So, I would like to see another stadium either at the same location or at a new one.
On the other hand, I do not want to pay for it either. |
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quiotu
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| 10/12/2007 2:38 PM |
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Yeah, I realize I'm new, but this is a rather important issue, and this was the first place I could think of to state my opinion at.
The Nonpareil can say all they want; they'll get business from the CWS, but it's because they'd be a pedestrian bridge away. And honestly, besides the casinos... that area of Council Bluffs is a stinking hole. I can't imagine someone walking or driving over to CB because they want to go to the IMAX for $12.00 instead of $12.24. The whole idea is just assinine... the same .5% of the Omaha population who drive to CB and waste gas so they can fill their tank for 6 cents cheaper might do this, but that's about it.
Honestly, a 2% entertainment tax would be unnoticable. Hell, my grocery bill has skyrocketed due to problems beyond my control, I'm trying and failing horribly to sell my house in a badly recessed market, and I'm supposed to worry about a 2% entertainment tax? Oh, and BTW, I have two sisters with family that survive and stay afloat with a middle income because they cook and don't eat out. Really, if you're eating out for lunch or dinner more than a few times a week respectively... you're either working too hard, can't cook, or are lazy.
The CWS affects Omaha's ecomonics by some $35 milllion; that's nothing to merely disregard. The idea of a vote is nice but not practical; waiting a few years to vote on what to do before sending a plan to the NCAA wouldn't work. They'd run out of patience and we'd lose the CWS anyway, and many would still probably blame Fahey. I don't approve of everything that Fahey's done, but I do approve of the new stadium; the location and the specifics of it still need to be worked out quite a bit, though. Be thankful that they have people from Creighton, the Omaha Royals and MECA added to the board that will create the actual plan.
And none of this is set in stone anyway. They're still working out ideas and are just throwing a few out there to get opinions. If you want to let you're opinion be known, then do what you're arleady doing. Write on a board, write a letter to Fahey, leave him a voicemail... you don't evoke change by sitting around and not speaking out. |
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Crit40
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| 10/12/2007 3:32 PM |
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It would be interesting to see the "net affect" of that $35MM spent, ie gross profit and taxable revenue. You'd assume with an event such as the College World Series, and "all that money" and tax revenue that your property taxes in Omaha would be going down, not up. And that's BEFORE a new stadium is built.
I'm not taking either side of the issue as it does not directly impact my personal income, but I do have 2 brothers who live in Omaha who it does affect. All I'm saying is there are lots and lots of questions to be asked and answered at this juncture. |
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Counting the Herd one hoof at a time. |
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reideen
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| 10/12/2007 3:50 PM |
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Posted By quiotu on 10/12/2007 2:38 PM
the location and the specifics of it still need to be worked out quite a bit, though. Be thankful that they have people from Creighton, the Omaha Royals and MECA added to the board that will create the actual plan.
And none of this is set in stone anyway. They're still working out ideas and are just throwing a few out there to get opinions.
Unfortunately that isn't the impression I'm getting - and I don't think I'm the only one. What we're hearing is "We're doing this. Here's how we're paying for it. Here's how much it's going to cost - we're saving $X.XX amount by not continuing to work on Rosenblatt."
If we were told 'This is one of the many options we're exploring to keep the CWS here in Omaha' then you wouldn't see the public backlash that's out there right now. For some reason Fahey thought he could just give the OK and this would be done. Fortunately that isn't the case.
If this was just an option and nothing has been decided, where did the 2% tax number come from? If nothing is set in stone, that % could very easily go up... |
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IrememberDukester
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| 10/13/2007 11:16 PM |
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Posted By Logan on 10/12/2007 1:00 PM
before we know it coucil tucky will be growing faster than omaha.
The nightly "attrition" in North Omaha certainly helps CB catch up!
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