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TheCrusher
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| 10/05/2007 12:52 PM |
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A buddy of mine stopped by Two Fine Irishmen on the way to my house to watch the Wake Forest game. He had been a listener of Perrault's and wanted to stop by and say hi, etc. He tried to chat with him a few times and Perrault totally big timed him was kind of a d!ck. He listens to 1620 now.
Too funny. Sometimes I like the show, but big timing people here is kind of funny. It is not like he is making great bank. I am sure he does alright, but I'll take my salary over his. Furthermore, its Omaha dude and you are not Rome or Cowherd or DP. His college basketball analysis is probably his strong suit..and even then. I could do better college football analysis in my spare time. MLB might be okay if he would just be okay with the idea that we could give two shoots about the BoSux.
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IrememberDukester
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| 10/05/2007 1:28 PM |
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23,600 is not large enough. If they are going to build a new stadium don't pull a Qwest and build something too small to begin with.
Within 5 years they will want to spend more money to make it bigger.
Just make it 30,000 to start with.
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ChiefLongStaff
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| 10/05/2007 1:30 PM |
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"its Omaha dude and you are not Rome or Cowherd or DP."
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Tim in Omaha
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| 10/05/2007 3:16 PM |
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Duke 3 national championships 1991, 1992, and 2001 16 Atlantic Coast Conference tournament championships (1960, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1978, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006),
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Logan
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| 10/05/2007 3:35 PM |
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| i think it should be built. i'd just like to see a sunset on the sales tax. |
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Bugeater
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| 10/05/2007 4:02 PM |
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Posted By TheCrusher on 10/05/2007 8:28 AM Posted By Bugeater on 10/05/2007 1:09 AM
Let the people who profit from the CWS pay for the f*cking thing. Who, in your opinion, are those people? The problem with making those who profit from the CWS pay for the stadium is that those costs will, inevitably, get passed along to Omaha residents in one way or another.
That's a question I don't know the answer to, but I am constantly hearing how important the CWS is because of the money it pumps into the local economy. SOMEONE is making some money somewhere, otherwise why are we falling all over ourselves to get this done? There needs to be a payoff for an investment like this one, but the way I see it is the taxpayers are making the investment and someone else is getting the payoff.
I guess the bottom line is, since I'm not a baseball fan, how is this stadium going to benefit me if I'm helping pay for it?
I'm really beginning to think we are going to end up losing the CWS to some city that already has an acceptable facility in place. Spending $116M to build a stadium for a novelty like the CWS just won't fly with Omaha taxpayers.
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Bugeater
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| 10/05/2007 4:05 PM |
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Posted By Logan on 10/05/2007 3:35 PM
i think it should be built. i'd just like to see a sunset on the sales tax.
lol like that "temporary" wheel tax they implemented 30 years ago? Once the politicians get their meathooks into you there's no getting them back out. |
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reideen
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| 10/05/2007 4:05 PM |
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| Another thought on this. Is the NCAA putting any money up for this project or are they just saying 'build it or we leave'? |
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Bugeater
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| 10/05/2007 4:18 PM |
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Posted By reideen on 10/05/2007 4:05 PM
Another thought on this. Is the NCAA putting any money up for this project or are they just saying 'build it or we leave'?
I don't think the NCAA has come out and said that, but they've made "requests" for certain things, and we're going to have to satisfy them at some point, or someone else will.
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TheCrusher
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| 10/05/2007 4:39 PM |
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Yea, I am not sure either. I know hotels, the old market, and eating establishments benefit, which is why I think Fahey went with the prepared foods tax. Hotels are already taxed high for Qwest and something else.
If you are not a baseball fan, then it is hard to imagine benefit unless you view the new ballpark as--provided the royals are there--a sports themed watering hole. But that is a stretch.
NCAA is working on becoming more family friendly. Some of the changes we have already seen (e.g. Reduction in liquor licenses) are part of this. They have a list of 'requests', as you said, but those will eventually become requirements as they did when we first started the major renovations to Rosenblatt. Some of the 'requests', I believe, would require essentially a new Rosenblatt to be built, because there is no easy way to renovate Rosenblatt, as is, to accomodate these. Open concourses for example. |
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Thetree1918
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| 10/05/2007 4:57 PM |
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Posted By Logan on 10/05/2007 12:51 PM
matt has never big timed me nor anyone else i've seen approach him. that doesn't sound like him. whenever i've seen him in public he's always been very engaging. keep in mind if he's not busy at that moment he does need to pay attention to what's going on so he can talk about something 4 hours a day.
I gotta agree, matt has never big leagued me, as much as i may disagree wiht him time to time, matt and brian have run into me several times. but then again I have been known to big league people, so who knows maybe i am the jerk  |
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590Fan
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| 10/05/2007 5:39 PM |
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| This is a project that needs to be done as The Blatt has outlived it's useful life.It needs to be paid for somehow and an Entertainment Tax is the only way to spread the impact out to visitors as well as local citizens. |
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Bugeater
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| 10/05/2007 6:21 PM |
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Posted By 590Fan on 10/05/2007 5:39 PM
This is a project that needs to be done as The Blatt has outlived it's useful life.It needs to be paid for somehow and an Entertainment Tax is the only way to spread the impact out to visitors as well as local citizens.
Hmmm...let's see here, you just registered here and have only posted twice in this thread, I take it somehow you have a stake in this?
The 'Blatt has not outlived its useful life, it has outlived the NCAA's useful life.
And lastly, WHY, as a citizen of Omaha and a taxpayer, should I support this deal?
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590Fan
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| 10/05/2007 7:52 PM |
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My number of posts is irrelevent. No conspiracy here.I am just interested in upgrading our stadium for the future good of Omaha.Compared to other places,The Blatt is an outdated facility from concessions to parking. Every reasonable person recognizes that.It is going to have to be torn down sooner or later or massively updated.The actual cost to update it would be more money and produce less desireable results.
If nothing is done...Let's say we loose the CWS, then the Royals leave...then what would you have.
Maybe Omaha doesn't need the CWS or a minor league team. But I think it is good for Omaha.
I am not a fan of taxes, but how would you suggest we pay for it?
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Arbitrator
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| 10/05/2007 8:05 PM |
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Quite an interesting interview on the Big Show this afternoon with one of the City Council members, it appears the price tag in his opinion might very well be way over 116 million.
It is my belief it will cost millions more to construct additional entries and exits to the interstate system as the proposed site has accessibility issues.
Tenth Street won't cut if for 25,000 people trying to get in and out of the new ball park. Especially if the Qwest has something going on at the same time.
Maybe Mayor Mikey will suggest they widen 10th Street by moving the Qwest or Hilton back 50 feet?
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590Fan
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| 10/05/2007 8:19 PM |
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I heard that interview also. There were a number of good points, traffic being one of them. Look how bad it is for a Creighton BB game.
Obviously there are a lot of questions, but one thing is clear. The NCAA wants a world-class facility for the furure of the CWS, and The Blatt , in it's current condition, is not it. So people have to approach this in a positive way as something is going to have to be done to improve Omaha's postion or its over for the CWS.
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IrememberDukester
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| 10/05/2007 8:54 PM |
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Posted By Bugeater on 10/05/2007 6:21 PM Posted By 590Fan on 10/05/2007 5:39 PM
This is a project that needs to be done as The Blatt has outlived it's useful life.It needs to be paid for somehow and an Entertainment Tax is the only way to spread the impact out to visitors as well as local citizens. Hmmm...let's see here, you just registered here and have only posted twice in this thread, I take it somehow you have a stake in this? The 'Blatt has not outlived its useful life, it has outlived the NCAA's useful life. And lastly, WHY, as a citizen of Omaha and a taxpayer, should I support this deal?
I have to say, I agree with Bugs on this one.
Having the CWS is nice as it brings some money into town but it's by no means the life or death issue that some make it out to be.
Losing Aksarben was in some respects as big an issue in its day yet life has gone on.
It won't be here forever so is 200 million really worth a temporary reprieve?
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Bugeater
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| 10/06/2007 6:05 AM |
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Posted By 590Fan on 10/05/2007 8:19 PM
I heard that interview also. There were a number of good points, traffic being one of them. Look how bad it is for a Creighton BB game.
Obviously there are a lot of questions, but one thing is clear. The NCAA wants a world-class facility for the furure of the CWS, and The Blatt , in it's current condition, is not it. So people have to approach this in a positive way as something is going to have to be done to improve Omaha's postion or its over for the CWS.
Sorry, but it just makes me a bit suspicious when someone show up here and only has an opinion on one topic.
Frankly, I just cannot justify that price tag for a two week event. And if the Royals leave...meh. I don't think anyone would really notice.
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Crit40
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| 10/06/2007 8:34 AM |
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Posted By TheCrusher on 10/05/2007 4:39 PM
Yea, I am not sure either. I know hotels, the old market, and eating establishments benefit, which is why I think Fahey went with the prepared foods tax. Hotels are already taxed high for Qwest and something else.
If you are not a baseball fan, then it is hard to imagine benefit unless you view the new ballpark as--provided the royals are there--a sports themed watering hole. But that is a stretch.
NCAA is working on becoming more family friendly. Some of the changes we have already seen (e.g. Reduction in liquor licenses) are part of this. They have a list of 'requests', as you said, but those will eventually become requirements as they did when we first started the major renovations to Rosenblatt. Some of the 'requests', I believe, would require essentially a new Rosenblatt to be built, because there is no easy way to renovate Rosenblatt, as is, to accomodate these. Open concourses for example.
How do you think the tax system works? The hotels and restaurants "remit" the tax, but it is the PEOPLE who pay for it. When your room rate is $100 and your final bill is $135, the lessee pays the tab, not the hotel. Granted, with hotels, it's typically out of towners and Johns who pay that tab, but for restaurants, it's your local citizens.
If you truly want those who benefit to pay, it will boil down to raising property taxes on the hotels and restaurants, in which they will just raise the prices......and the PEOPLE still pay for it. No matter how you slice it, the citizens of Omaha will pay for this new stadium.
I'm with reideen on this one. Let donations and grants pay for the majority of it. Does the NCAA contribute above and beyond their lease agreement? Can the lease from the NCAA, Creighton, and maybe the Royals cover the P&I on the bonds as well as overhead costs? Many questions to be asked and answered. You Nebraskans are taxes way too high, just as us Minnesotans are. It sucks big time.
My contention all along has been the millions and millions of dollars socked into a stadium that the NCAA deams worthless for their needs. It would be like DMan building his $45K deck and then the city coming in and saying, sorry, but you can't live here anymore. |
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DMan
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| 10/06/2007 8:41 AM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 10/06/2007 8:34 AM Posted By TheCrusher on 10/05/2007 4:39 PM
Yea, I am not sure either. I know hotels, the old market, and eating establishments benefit, which is why I think Fahey went with the prepared foods tax. Hotels are already taxed high for Qwest and something else.
If you are not a baseball fan, then it is hard to imagine benefit unless you view the new ballpark as--provided the royals are there--a sports themed watering hole. But that is a stretch.
NCAA is working on becoming more family friendly. Some of the changes we have already seen (e.g. Reduction in liquor licenses) are part of this. They have a list of 'requests', as you said, but those will eventually become requirements as they did when we first started the major renovations to Rosenblatt. Some of the 'requests', I believe, would require essentially a new Rosenblatt to be built, because there is no easy way to renovate Rosenblatt, as is, to accomodate these. Open concourses for example. How do you think the tax system works? The hotels and restaurants "remit" the tax, but it is the PEOPLE who pay for it. When your room rate is $100 and your final bill is $135, the lessee pays the tab, not the hotel. Granted, with hotels, it's typically out of towners and Johns who pay that tab, but for restaurants, it's your local citizens. If you truly want those who benefit to pay, it will boil down to raising property taxes on the hotels and restaurants, in which they will just raise the prices......and the PEOPLE still pay for it. No matter how you slice it, the citizens of Omaha will pay for this new stadium. I'm with reideen on this one. Let donations and grants pay for the majority of it. Does the NCAA contribute above and beyond their lease agreement? Can the lease from the NCAA, Creighton, and maybe the Royals cover the P&I on the bonds as well as overhead costs? Many questions to be asked and answered. You Nebraskans are taxes way too high, just as us Minnesotans are. It sucks big time.
Good points Crit.
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