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egami
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| 10/04/2007 12:02 PM |
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| How are you defining transcending the sport, v? That seems to have varying meanings to people. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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vranged
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| 10/04/2007 12:12 PM |
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| The list I put together has more to do with "fame" then transcendency. If you want to tackle it from a different angle, with a different definition, it could be something interesting to discuss. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Crit40
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| 10/04/2007 9:23 PM |
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| To transcend sports, these individuals would have had to do something of great value outside of the sport that made them icons. I just don't think a couple Naked Gun movies and murdering your ex-wife transcends sports. Muhammad Ali, Tiger Woods, Hank Aaron and Pele I think fit the profile of transcending their sport. Amazing that they are all men of color. |
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Counting the Herd one hoof at a time. |
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egami
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| 10/05/2007 8:55 AM |
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I think it's subjective...transcending the sport I think is easier to do than most people want to admit. As I said before....Adam "Ms. Pac Man" Jones has transcended the sport, Michael Vick has transcended the sport.
I think if people look for some more genuinely altruistic manner of doing so. Of which, I don't think anyone has really truly bettered Roberto Clemente, they might find that list of names to be quite different.
To me, Jordan was the best at transcending the sport differently. He single-handedly effected the game and brought the level play to a new level which his style. People wanted to be "like Mike" for a reason...he was a hero. His off the court achievements, to me, are largely monetary...nothing wrong with that.
Roberto Clemente was an incredible athlete as well, but he transcended differently...first of all, he transcended cultures and was iconic to Hispanic people. He was a class act guy on the field, but more importantly was a class act guy off the field as well. And, above all, a guy who died risking his own personal fame, fortune and life to fly supplies to quake victims. A guy who consistantly, genuinely involved at a personal level in charity work.
It's a matter of perspective...there isn't really a singular definition of transcending the sport, it's kind of like MVP...it means slightly different things to different people. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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