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| 10/02/2007 5:25 PM |
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Posted By DMan on 10/02/2007 4:42 PM
I'll stand by that.
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| 10/03/2007 7:42 AM |
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Posted By egami on 10/02/2007 4:09 PM Posted By DMan on 10/02/2007 4:05 PM
i don't hope not, I know! NU is due for a shining performance, something tells me it won't be this coming weekend though. It's week 6. We're at the mid-point of the season. If they haven't shined now, and it's not coming in week 6, then I have to question any 'shining' being done as a luck game. We shined against ND. Doesn't mean we are finally playing up to our potential for the season as the Northwestern game demonstrated. Nebraska is in a troubling situation and it'll take more than a single, solid looking performance before I believe their cause for alarm is no longer legit.
And I'll stand by that.
One quality game at this point for Nebraska isn't necessarily a sign of things to come...it's too far into the season.
This is the point objectively critical Nebraska fans start to question Callahan. And if this continues into next season...this is a really bad sign.
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| 10/03/2007 11:39 AM |
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| and i predict it will continue because beau can't "get er done". |
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| 10/04/2007 8:02 AM |
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| It's starting to look that way and I would guess in about 2 - 4 weeks there could be a resurgence in the anti-Callahan movement that may be unprecedented. More fans are going to become agitated if they get anywhere near .500 and so far, the way they've played, I don't see them going much above that in the North. |
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| 10/04/2007 8:09 AM |
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Posted By egami on 10/04/2007 8:02 AM
It's starting to look that way and I would guess in about 2 - 4 weeks there could be a resurgence in the anti-Callahan movement that may be unprecedented. More fans are going to become agitated if they get anywhere near .500 and so far, the way they've played, I don't see them going much above that in the North.
If the Skers get anywhere near .500 this year that sh!t will hit the fan like never before in Husker Nation. I don't think that they will, though. Each team on the schedule is about as flawed as the Skers.
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| 10/04/2007 10:22 AM |
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| Even if they do, what are they going to do, fire the guy. He just got a contract extension through 2012 didn't he? |
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| 10/04/2007 10:27 AM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 10/04/2007 10:22 AM
Even if they do, what are they going to do, fire the guy. He just got a contract extension through 2012 didn't he?
No way he is gone in the next 3 seasons. He could lose out this year and go .500 next year and he'll be back.
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| 10/04/2007 10:30 AM |
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| Yup. Coz will be gone, but BC isn't going anywhere for a while. Not sure how I feel about BC at this point. Check with me in Nov. |
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| 10/04/2007 11:30 AM |
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| at this point, after looking at the big 12 web site's statistics this morning, i don't see nebraska finishing better than 6-6. things could change but historically billy and cos have shown tendencies to not adapt or improve as a season goes along. |
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| 10/04/2007 11:41 AM |
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Posted By Logan on 10/04/2007 11:30 AM
historically billy and cos have shown tendencies to not adapt or improve as a season goes along.
Have to disagree with you there. Coz actually had a pretty good defensive gameplan against Texas, Mizzu, Oklahoma, and Auburn late in the season last year. Even if that happens again this year I don't think that he can save his job. |
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| 10/04/2007 11:57 AM |
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| where have those plans been this year? he's in the basement in most defensive categories in the conference. mizzou, osu, texas, texas a&m and k-state all looked more impressive, in one facet or another, on offense to me than ball st. did. those teams look better on d too. i haven't seen ku yet and while they haven't played anyone they are putting up real good numbers on both sides of the ball. colorado is yet to be proven but they are showing improvement. i know i post a lot of things just to agitate, because i get a kick out of that. this opinion is base upon what i've seen and the numbers i've looked at. |
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| 10/04/2007 12:28 PM |
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Posted By Logan on 10/04/2007 11:57 AM
where have those plans been this year? he's in the basement in most defensive categories in the conference. mizzou, osu, texas, texas a&m and k-state all looked more impressive, in one facet or another, on offense to me than ball st. did. those teams look better on d too. i haven't seen ku yet and while they haven't played anyone they are putting up real good numbers on both sides of the ball. colorado is yet to be proven but they are showing improvement. i know i post a lot of things just to agitate, because i get a kick out of that. this opinion is base upon what i've seen and the numbers i've looked at.
I know that the D sucks this year. I was replying to your statement regarding them historically not improving.
And NU does have better defensive stats than MU with a tougher schedule.
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| 10/04/2007 12:39 PM |
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don't know which stats you're looking at.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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1. Kansas.............. 4 3 2 0 0 1 0 23 5.8
2. Oklahoma............ 5 8 8 0 0 6 0 74 14.8
3. Kansas State........ 4 8 8 0 0 4 0 68 17.0
4. Colorado............ 5 13 11 0 0 4 0 101 20.2
5. Texas A&M........... 5 14 12 1 0 4 0 110 22.0
6. Texas............... 5 13 12 1 0 7 0 113 22.6
7. Texas Tech.......... 5 15 15 0 0 5 0 120 24.0
8. Missouri............ 4 14 10 0 0 2 0 100 25.0
9. Baylor.............. 5 15 15 0 0 7 0 126 25.2
10.Oklahoma State...... 5 17 16 0 0 4 0 130 26.0
11.Iowa State.......... 5 17 14 0 0 5 0 131 26.2
12.Nebraska............ 5 17 16 0 0 5 0 133 26.6
PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Kansas.............. 4 135 72 5 53.3 496 3.7 2 124.0
2. Colorado............ 5 133 66 4 49.6 831 6.2 7 166.2
3. Iowa State.......... 5 134 90 4 67.2 897 6.7 7 179.4
4. Texas Tech.......... 5 153 75 5 49.0 930 6.1 8 186.0
5. Oklahoma............ 5 159 90 9 56.6 980 6.2 6 196.0
6. Kansas State........ 4 137 77 6 56.2 788 5.8 4 197.0
7. Texas............... 5 176 101 5 57.4 1070 6.1 3 214.0
8. Nebraska............ 5 175 92 7 52.6 1095 6.3 5 219.0
9. Texas A&M........... 5 168 95 6 56.5 1166 6.9 6 233.2
10.Baylor.............. 5 191 117 5 61.3 1254 6.6 5 250.8
11.Missouri............ 4 161 98 6 60.9 1103 6.9 6 275.8
12.Oklahoma State...... 5 222 139 4 62.6 1713 7.7 9 342.6
RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
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1. Oklahoma............ 5 182 338 1.9 2 67.6
2. Kansas State........ 4 140 317 2.3 3 79.2
3. Texas............... 5 172 444 2.6 6 88.8
4. Kansas.............. 4 130 379 2.9 1 94.8
5. Oklahoma State...... 5 179 501 2.8 7 100.2
6. Colorado............ 5 181 552 3.0 5 110.4
7. Texas A&M........... 5 185 640 3.5 8 128.0
8. Iowa State.......... 5 186 692 3.7 7 138.4
9. Missouri............ 4 151 635 4.2 6 158.8
10.Texas Tech.......... 5 216 810 3.8 7 162.0
11.Baylor.............. 5 209 814 3.9 10 162.8
12.Nebraska............ 5 202 948 4.7 11 189.6
TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Kansas.............. 4 379 496 265 875 3.3 3 218.8
2. Oklahoma............ 5 338 980 341 1318 3.9 8 263.6
3. Kansas State........ 4 317 788 277 1105 4.0 7 276.2
4. Colorado............ 5 552 831 314 1383 4.4 12 276.6
5. Texas............... 5 444 1070 348 1514 4.4 9 302.8
6. Iowa State.......... 5 692 897 320 1589 5.0 14 317.8
7. Texas Tech.......... 5 810 930 369 1740 4.7 15 348.0
8. Texas A&M........... 5 640 1166 353 1806 5.1 14 361.2
9. Nebraska............ 5 948 1095 377 2043 5.4 16 408.6
10.Baylor.............. 5 814 1254 400 2068 5.2 15 413.6
11.Missouri............ 4 635 1103 312 1738 5.6 12 434.5
12.Oklahoma State...... 5 501 1713 401 2214 5.5 16 442.8
OPPONENT 1ST DOWNS G Rush Pass Pen Total
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1. Kansas.............. 4 24 21 4 49
2. Oklahoma............ 5 16 44 4 64
3. Kansas State........ 4 16 37 16 69
4. Colorado............ 5 30 42 3 75
5. Iowa State.......... 5 35 49 4 88
6. Missouri............ 4 31 58 4 93
7. Texas A&M........... 5 36 54 4 94
Texas............... 5 36 49 9 94
9. Texas Tech.......... 5 47 39 13 99
10.Nebraska............ 5 44 53 7 104
11.Baylor.............. 5 55 52 3 110
12.Oklahoma State...... 5 35 71 5 111
RED ZONE DEFENSE G RedZone Percent TDs R/P FG-AT Fumb/Int/Downs/Other
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1. Kansas.............. 4 2-4 50.0 2 1/1 0-0 1/ 0/ 1/ 0
2. Missouri............ 4 10-16 62.5 8 5/3 2-2 2/ 1/ 3/ 0
3. Oklahoma State...... 5 18-26 69.2 15 7/8 3-4 1/ 2/ 3/ 1
4. Baylor.............. 5 18-25 72.0 13 10/3 5-9 1/ 0/ 2/ 0
5. Texas............... 5 13-18 72.2 9 6/3 4-7 0/ 1/ 1/ 0
6. Oklahoma............ 5 8-11 72.7 5 1/4 3-5 0/ 0/ 1/ 0
7. Iowa State.......... 5 15-20 75.0 11 6/5 4-5 2/ 1/ 0/ 1
8. Texas A&M........... 5 16-20 80.0 14 8/6 2-4 1/ 1/ 0/ 0
9. Nebraska............ 5 17-20 85.0 13 10/3 4-4 1/ 2/ 0/ 0
10.Colorado............ 5 12-13 92.3 8 3/5 4-4 0/ 1/ 0/ 0
11.Texas Tech.......... 5 13-14 92.9 8 5/3 5-5 1/ 0/ 0/ 0
12.Kansas State........ 4 9-9 100.0 5 3/2 4-4 0/ 0/ 0/ 0
mizzou has given up more yards, but the skers have given up more td's and points. as far as strength of schedule goes nebraska has usc and that's it. if pete carroll doesn't call off the dogs how many more td's do the trojans hang on the black shirts? saturday night around 11 it will all be settled. |
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| 10/04/2007 12:50 PM |
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Yeah, statistically these guys match up pretty parallel as I said earlier. I think overall Mizzou has the edge statistically, obviously home field advantage and I don't think they've struggled as much against teams they, in theory, shouldn't have to the degree Nebraska has.
I think Mizzou easily covers the spread. |
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| 10/04/2007 12:54 PM |
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Posted By Logan on 10/04/2007 12:39 PM
don't know which stats you're looking at.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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1. Kansas.............. 4 3 2 0 0 1 0 23 5.8
2. Oklahoma............ 5 8 8 0 0 6 0 74 14.8
3. Kansas State........ 4 8 8 0 0 4 0 68 17.0
4. Colorado............ 5 13 11 0 0 4 0 101 20.2
5. Texas A&M........... 5 14 12 1 0 4 0 110 22.0
6. Texas............... 5 13 12 1 0 7 0 113 22.6
7. Texas Tech.......... 5 15 15 0 0 5 0 120 24.0
8. Missouri............ 4 14 10 0 0 2 0 100 25.0
9. Baylor.............. 5 15 15 0 0 7 0 126 25.2
10.Oklahoma State...... 5 17 16 0 0 4 0 130 26.0
11.Iowa State.......... 5 17 14 0 0 5 0 131 26.2
12.Nebraska............ 5 17 16 0 0 5 0 133 26.6
PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Kansas.............. 4 135 72 5 53.3 496 3.7 2 124.0
2. Colorado............ 5 133 66 4 49.6 831 6.2 7 166.2
3. Iowa State.......... 5 134 90 4 67.2 897 6.7 7 179.4
4. Texas Tech.......... 5 153 75 5 49.0 930 6.1 8 186.0
5. Oklahoma............ 5 159 90 9 56.6 980 6.2 6 196.0
6. Kansas State........ 4 137 77 6 56.2 788 5.8 4 197.0
7. Texas............... 5 176 101 5 57.4 1070 6.1 3 214.0
8. Nebraska............ 5 175 92 7 52.6 1095 6.3 5 219.0
9. Texas A&M........... 5 168 95 6 56.5 1166 6.9 6 233.2
10.Baylor.............. 5 191 117 5 61.3 1254 6.6 5 250.8
11.Missouri............ 4 161 98 6 60.9 1103 6.9 6 275.8
12.Oklahoma State...... 5 222 139 4 62.6 1713 7.7 9 342.6
RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
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1. Oklahoma............ 5 182 338 1.9 2 67.6
2. Kansas State........ 4 140 317 2.3 3 79.2
3. Texas............... 5 172 444 2.6 6 88.8
4. Kansas.............. 4 130 379 2.9 1 94.8
5. Oklahoma State...... 5 179 501 2.8 7 100.2
6. Colorado............ 5 181 552 3.0 5 110.4
7. Texas A&M........... 5 185 640 3.5 8 128.0
8. Iowa State.......... 5 186 692 3.7 7 138.4
9. Missouri............ 4 151 635 4.2 6 158.8
10.Texas Tech.......... 5 216 810 3.8 7 162.0
11.Baylor.............. 5 209 814 3.9 10 162.8
12.Nebraska............ 5 202 948 4.7 11 189.6
TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Kansas.............. 4 379 496 265 875 3.3 3 218.8
2. Oklahoma............ 5 338 980 341 1318 3.9 8 263.6
3. Kansas State........ 4 317 788 277 1105 4.0 7 276.2
4. Colorado............ 5 552 831 314 1383 4.4 12 276.6
5. Texas............... 5 444 1070 348 1514 4.4 9 302.8
6. Iowa State.......... 5 692 897 320 1589 5.0 14 317.8
7. Texas Tech.......... 5 810 930 369 1740 4.7 15 348.0
8. Texas A&M........... 5 640 1166 353 1806 5.1 14 361.2
9. Nebraska............ 5 948 1095 377 2043 5.4 16 408.6
10.Baylor.............. 5 814 1254 400 2068 5.2 15 413.6
11.Missouri............ 4 635 1103 312 1738 5.6 12 434.5
12.Oklahoma State...... 5 501 1713 401 2214 5.5 16 442.8
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1. Kansas.............. 4 24 21 4 49
2. Oklahoma............ 5 16 44 4 64
3. Kansas State........ 4 16 37 16 69
4. Colorado............ 5 30 42 3 75
5. Iowa State.......... 5 35 49 4 88
6. Missouri............ 4 31 58 4 93
7. Texas A&M........... 5 36 54 4 94
Texas............... 5 36 49 9 94
9. Texas Tech.......... 5 47 39 13 99
10.Nebraska............ 5 44 53 7 104
11.Baylor.............. 5 55 52 3 110
12.Oklahoma State...... 5 35 71 5 111
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1. Kansas.............. 4 2-4 50.0 2 1/1 0-0 1/ 0/ 1/ 0
2. Missouri............ 4 10-16 62.5 8 5/3 2-2 2/ 1/ 3/ 0
3. Oklahoma State...... 5 18-26 69.2 15 7/8 3-4 1/ 2/ 3/ 1
4. Baylor.............. 5 18-25 72.0 13 10/3 5-9 1/ 0/ 2/ 0
5. Texas............... 5 13-18 72.2 9 6/3 4-7 0/ 1/ 1/ 0
6. Oklahoma............ 5 8-11 72.7 5 1/4 3-5 0/ 0/ 1/ 0
7. Iowa State.......... 5 15-20 75.0 11 6/5 4-5 2/ 1/ 0/ 1
8. Texas A&M........... 5 16-20 80.0 14 8/6 2-4 1/ 1/ 0/ 0
9. Nebraska............ 5 17-20 85.0 13 10/3 4-4 1/ 2/ 0/ 0
10.Colorado............ 5 12-13 92.3 8 3/5 4-4 0/ 1/ 0/ 0
11.Texas Tech.......... 5 13-14 92.9 8 5/3 5-5 1/ 0/ 0/ 0
12.Kansas State........ 4 9-9 100.0 5 3/2 4-4 0/ 0/ 0/ 0
mizzou has given up more yards, but the skers have given up more td's and points. as far as strength of schedule goes nebraska has usc and that's it. if pete carroll doesn't call off the dogs how many more td's do the trojans hang on the black shirts? saturday night around 11 it will all be settled.
I'm not going to get into a stupid debate about which of these ugly girls is less ugly at the ugly girl dance.
The D stats are closer than I thought. I don't think giving up 1.6 pts/game means anything.
As far as schedule goes, Ball St and Wake would beat anyone Mizzu has played except Ill. USC would pound them all. Mizzu has also played a 1AA team. How would their stats look without those numbers?
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| 10/04/2007 12:56 PM |
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| 10/04/2007 12:57 PM |
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| 10/04/2007 12:58 PM |
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| all that matters is how their stats look, especially standings in the big 12 north, after saturday night. mizzou wins and covers. |
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| 10/04/2007 1:01 PM |
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