Bugeater
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Posted By egami on 09/24/2007 11:50 AM
Oh yeah...I am not saying there isn't any cause for concern, but for those that were already starting threads like "Callahan = Fraud"...this isn't really ammo for their cause yet.
It's not? What has he proven since he's been here? Never mind, I'll tell you what he's proven, not a gawd damn thang. That makes him a fraud in my book. And lastly, stop using the word "crying". I'm not crying, I'm ****ing pissed off.
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egami
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| 09/24/2007 3:10 PM |
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No, a single game of stumbling against Ball St. isn't the sure fire ammo you need to fire Callahan. I realize you're "pissed off", but the fact is he's made marked improvement each year and right now he's sitting at 3-1 with a loss to USC. I am not saying he's the next TO. I think personally he's probably reached his NCAA potential, but you don't have enough ammo to run him out...if you did, of all AD's, this one would.
In your mind you may have enough ammo...I am not going argue your perception, but I am talking about reality. And the reality is this is this AD's man and he's going to have a lot more severe outcomes than a Ball St. near miss to get this AD's front end out of Callahan's mouth....or maybe it's the other way around.
I think Carr should be gone, I want him gone, I am pissed off...the reality is, he's relatively untouchable. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Crit40
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| 09/24/2007 3:26 PM |
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Maybe. But by God Iowa got beat by the toughest 1-3 team in the country and the No. 9 by a total of 5 points. It's all about spin, Midge. And that's my point. Spin it all you want, but WF and BS should not have been in those games with NU. A "W" is a "W" and as long as the NU coach is satisfied with that, and the players see he is satisfied with that, they are going to have problems.
Hell, Iowa is down to their 5th and 6th receivers on their depth chart. They'll be lucky to be in the games they have left, but they sure played tough the other night. |
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egami
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| 09/24/2007 3:35 PM |
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| Crit, I never suggested that mentality was healthy. I never suggested that Callahan is the answer...you need to go back and read my actual replies for face value. I am not quite exactly sure what your major contention is other than the fact you think the WF and BS outcomes are disastrous and I think they are less catastrophic at this point. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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Crit40
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| 09/24/2007 3:42 PM |
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| I think Bugs has a legitimate gripe. You say Callahan is making progress, and I would disagree with that. Yes, they are 3-1. They were supposed to be 3-1, but not with 2 scares to inferior teams. If I'm a Husker fan, I'm feeling a little queazy about the remaining schedule.....and if I'm a Husker fan, my slamming of Notre Dame stops immediately. I'm just saying. |
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egami
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| 09/24/2007 3:48 PM |
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So, you agree with me or you agree with Bugs?
I said, basically, (again, feel free to go back and read...) that they have a right to begin being worried. Bugs is ready to run him now.
Also, I am talking about having factual ammo to run Callahan out. You tell me, honestly, is the Ball St. game enough to run him out now? Yes or no. Does Callahan have enough against him to make it easy for the AD to run him out now? Yes or no.
I am not defending Callahan's standing saying he is a stellar head coach. I said quite plainly that Husker fan has a right to be questioning their strength, but I am talking FACTS...there aren't cold hard facts making Callahan a no-brainer firing and his being the AD's man will complicate it more.
Yes, we can speculate and disagree on Callahan's performance...that's speculative and debateable. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Crit40
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| 09/24/2007 4:01 PM |
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The title of the thread is Callahan = Fraud.
I think there is pleanty of supporting documentation for Bugs to make and believe that statement.
I disagree that Callahan is making progress. As I said.....If I were a Husker fan, I would not be throwing stones at any other program as this juncture. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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DMan
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| 09/24/2007 4:10 PM |
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| Bugs has lost his faith in himself. He hates Callahan as much as Adolph does. The Nation doesn't need fans like him. When the winning comes in abundance there will be joy that only the loyal fans can enjoy. Fair weathered idiots that challenge things they don't understand make me puke. |
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egami
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| 09/24/2007 4:15 PM |
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He may be a fraud by Bugs definition, but the mere fact that his performance is debateable pretty much proves my point on the subject. The fact that it can be argued both ways pretty much proves my point on the subject. The fact that you can't come back with a clear cut "yes" and defend those position unquestionably again pretty much solidifies what I've been saying.
And, define "fraud"...it's not really even fitting, by definition, in the context of the discussion. If you want to be strictly interpretive of the word then you'd have to prove he is deliberately deceiving...
Callahan most likely has reached his potential. But the fact is, Husker fan ain't got enough to run him off yet whether you like it or not....to use a Huskerism.
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
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Crit40
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| 09/24/2007 4:23 PM |
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My belief is, and I've stated it elsewhere......Callahan is the Brian "the Boz" Bozworth of the college coaching field. "The Cal" if you will.
I've never said anything about running him off. I hope he stays forever. But just because he has a solid standing with the A.D. and probably won't get sh!t canned anytime soon, does not mean that he isn't a fraud, as Bugs puts it. Does it? |
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Logan
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| 09/24/2007 5:13 PM |
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Posted By DMan on 09/24/2007 4:10 PM
Bugs has lost his faith in himself. He hates Callahan as much as Adolph does. The Nation doesn't need fans like him. When the winning comes in abundance there will be joy that only the loyal fans can enjoy. Fair weathered idiots that challenge things they don't understand make me puke.
you delusional, kool aid swigging fvck wad. the wins won't come with callahan as coach. that's the fvcking point.
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dwight, refuting reality one post at a time. |
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vranged
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| 09/24/2007 5:22 PM |
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Posted By DMan on 09/24/2007 4:10 PM
Bugs has lost his faith in himself. He hates Callahan as much as Adolph does. The Nation doesn't need fans like him. When the winning comes in abundance there will be joy that only the loyal fans can enjoy. Fair weathered idiots that challenge things they don't understand make me puke.
Bugs is a practical, logical Husker fan who thinks Callahan sucks. I actually disagree with him (although time might prove him right), but that's not even the point.
The point is, Dwight, you actually embarrass me as a fellow Husker fan. When people rip on Husker Nation, they're ripping on dipsh1ts like you. They're not ripping on me. They're not ripping on most sane Husker fans. Whatever bad reputation Husker fans have is BECAUSE OF KOOL AID DRINKERS LIKE YOU.
I actually have to apologize for dimwitted ignoramuses like you. People like you make me feel dirty to be a Husker fan.
So, please....don't say Husker Nation doesn't need Bugs. Husker Nation doesn't need you. You sap the credibility out of our fanbase. You give ammo to Husker hater. It's pathetic, as are you. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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reideen
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| 09/24/2007 6:48 PM |
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Callahan might not be a fraud, but he certainly is committing fraud. He's stealing $$ from all you UNL athletic supporters. Where I'm from, taking money for something you say you're going to do and then don't = fraud. (Maybe Mike McKnight should do a 6 on your side investigation into UNL and the football coach... Nah - there aren't any Mexican roofers involved. It isn't worth his time.)
Beau was brought in under Sssstevie Petersssson's assurance that the program 'ithn't going to sssslip in thu mediocrity.' The implication being that Beau would be able to return the 'skers to national contention.
Unfortunately (or fortunately for anti-skers like me out there) he's done the opposite - making 'sker fan happy to have gotten by Wake Forest and Ball St. Reassuring each other that Ball St has a good QB and could challenge many BCS schools. BS. Bad coaching leads to bad fundamentals. Bad fundamentals lead to games that are barely won, which should be finished by the end of the 1st quarter. (Teams that, in the past, had been finished by the end of the 1st quarter.) Bad fundamentals will eventually lead to lost games.
Beau may not be a fraud, but he certainly is committing it.
(How's that for opinion & commentary Dwight? No copy/paste here, just rational, original thought. Although, you'll probably come back with something like 'go read a comic book!') |
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IrememberDukester
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| 09/24/2007 6:50 PM |
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Posted By vranged on 09/24/2007 5:22 PM Posted By DMan on 09/24/2007 4:10 PM
Bugs has lost his faith in himself. He hates Callahan as much as Adolph does. The Nation doesn't need fans like him. When the winning comes in abundance there will be joy that only the loyal fans can enjoy. Fair weathered idiots that challenge things they don't understand make me puke. Bugs is a practical, logical Husker fan who thinks Callahan sucks. I actually disagree with him (although time might prove him right), but that's not even the point. The point is, Dwight, you actually embarrass me as a fellow Husker fan. When people rip on Husker Nation, they're ripping on dipsh1ts like you. They're not ripping on me. They're not ripping on most sane Husker fans. Whatever bad reputation Husker fans have is BECAUSE OF KOOL AID DRINKERS LIKE YOU. I actually have to apologize for dimwitted ignoramuses like you. People like you make me feel dirty to be a Husker fan. So, please....don't say Husker Nation doesn't need Bugs. Husker Nation doesn't need you. You sap the credibility out of our fanbase. You give ammo to Husker hater. It's pathetic, as are you.
The "Ol Excuse Train" burns DMan for fuel!!!!!
Keep posting "D" we need to get a good head of steam going into the Iowa State game!!!!
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reideen
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| 09/24/2007 7:03 PM |
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Posted By IrememberDukester on 09/24/2007 6:50 PM
Dukester said some stupid thing about the ol' excuse train
Please. You are the bottom feeder of bottom feeders on this board. You are dumber than Florida Joe was on a bad day. Please try to contribute something to a thread not related to any of the following subjects:
1) the ol' excuse train
2) Creighton & the coach being investigated for kiddie porn
3) refrain from copying and pasting something into your post
If you can do that for a whole week, I'll buy you a sunday edition of the world herald. (It will include the employment section and you can start looking for meaningful work.) I know it isn't the Daily Nonpareil, but we'll make due with what I can offer you. |
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IrememberDukester
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| 09/24/2007 7:09 PM |
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Posted By reideen on 09/24/2007 7:03 PM Posted By IrememberDukester on 09/24/2007 6:50 PM
Dukester said some stupid thing about the ol' excuse train Please. You are the bottom feeder of bottom feeders on this board. You are dumber than Florida Joe was on a bad day. Please try to contribute something to a thread not related to any of the following subjects: 1) the ol' excuse train 2) Creighton & the coach being investigated for kiddie porn 3) refrain from copying and pasting something into your post If you can do that for a whole week, I'll buy you a sunday edition of the world herald. (It will include the employment section and you can start looking for meaningful work.) I know it isn't the Daily Nonpareil, but we'll make due with what I can offer you.
Capt. RinTinrenden,
Isn't there a Star Wars Convention or other loser type get together going on at the Holiday Inn that you should be at right about now?
Cartoon Central is running a BatMan marathon, why don't you put on your costume and start watching!
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reideen
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| 09/24/2007 7:32 PM |
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Such an original post! Tired and worn out (much like...nah - a mom joke is just too easy here) but still funny.
Although, I must admit, I am suprised you know there's such a thing as a cartoon channel. I'd have thought extended cable was out of your financial means. Must be some sort of state dispensation to get cable into the homes of the barely working? |
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IrememberDukester
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| 09/24/2007 8:22 PM |
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A mom joke? I don't have to invent any joke to bring it to the table when it involves you.
Comic Book Boy then Comic Book Boy now!
No wonder you never made it on the air during Matts broadcast.
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reideen
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| 09/24/2007 10:33 PM |
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Posted By IrememberDukester on 09/24/2007 8:22 PM
A mom joke? I don't have to invent any joke to bring it to the table when it involves you.
Comic Book Boy then Comic Book Boy now!
No wonder you never made it on the air during Matts broadcast.
Is that seriously your 'badge of honor'? I never tried to get on the air - never wanted to. Matt is a narrow minded childish announcer who can't justify his stand on, well...anything when confronted by someone with knowledge of the subject at hand.
Sort of like someone else I *cough! Dukester cough!* know. |
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Bugeater
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| 09/24/2007 11:09 PM |
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LOL, I'm having flashbacks to the old board.
Egami- No, the Ball St game alone isn't enough to fire Cally. Now when it comes to his entire body of work, I think an argument can be made. You say he's made improvements, but what benchmark are you using, the 2003 10-3 season or the 2004 5-6 season? The latter doesn't work with me.
It could also be argued that it's misplaced anger, I'm still seething about the extensions, both his and Pedey's. So just for good measure, a big EFF OFF to you too Harvey Perlman.
And as far as DMan's comment, I deal with the same crap over at huskerboard.com every day. It doesn't affect me one bit. I like D and admire his passion, I just don't happen to share it at this time
OK, I think that about covers it, Reideen and Dukester can resume blasting each other now. |
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