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Everything's up to date in ... Omaha
By Kevin Collison/The Kansas City Star, Mo.
Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:54 AM CDT
Anyone who thinks Kansas City has gone about as far as it can go when it comes to revitalizing downtown should take a little trip upriver to Omaha.
This is a city that doesn't rest on its laurels. Just last week it was announced that a 24,000-seat ballpark would be built downtown as part of a 25-year deal to keep the College World Series.
The $127 million ballpark, likely to be designed by HOK Sport of Kansas City, will be next to the 4 1/2 -year-old Qwest Center, one of the country's more successful arenas. The Qwest Center was a major element in the ongoing revitalization of the Omaha downtown riverfront.
Later this year, a $17 million pedestrian bridge spanning the Missouri River between Nebraska and Iowa is scheduled to open linking the downtown riverfront with 150 miles of trails. The graceful bridge is next to a new 12-story condominium building, and a twin tower is about to start construction.
Those condo towers are part of a huge investment in downtown housing that has not only renovated many older buildings, but also generated plenty of new construction. The biggest project on tap is a 32-story condo and hotel tower planned by Jason Townsend, a Kansas City developer, on the site of the old Union Pacific building.
Union Pacific built a new 19-story headquarters across the street in 2004. It's not far from the $102 million Holland Performing Arts Center that was completed in 2005. The performing arts center is across from the urban park Omaha began building in the 1970s with the ultimate goal of reconnecting the downtown core with the river.
This brings us back to the ballpark, arena, pedestrian bridge, riverfront condos, etc.
Whew. Now that I've caught my breath, there's more.
Mutual of Omaha is building a $300 million mixed-use development on the west edge of downtown that will include 600 apartments and condos, and 220,000 square feet of retail, including a movie complex. The Midtown Crossing at Turner Park is scheduled to be completed late next year.
And get this, Kansas City: The next big thing being planned is a streetcar route that will link major downtown attractions including the Qwest Center; the Old Market -- a funky historic district of shops, restaurants and bars -- the central business district, and Creighton University.
Plans call for this starter line to be locally funded with an eye toward attracting federal funding for expansions down the track. Sound familiar?
There have been several mayors who've consistently pushed Omaha's downtown revitalization, but the latest is a son of Kansas City. Mayor Mike Fahey is a 1961 graduate of Bishop Lillis High School and his old home was razed to make way for Penn Valley Community College.
Fahey, like his predecessors, has benefited mightily from an almost hyperactive corporate community that continues to cooperatively push the Omaha development envelope. Remember, this is a metro area of 815,000 residents versus about 2 million in Greater Kansas City.
Civic leaders have established what's called Heritage Services to channel private donations for projects including the ballpark, performing arts center and the arena.
And by the way, Omaha has used what's unfortunately become almost a dirty phrase around here -- tax increment financing -- to assist the redevelopment boom, including the new housing projects. That's made a critical difference.
Kansas City has had success converting old buildings to housing, but constructing new condos has been tough, primarily because developers can't make the numbers work. The TIF assistance in Omaha has allowed developers to build new projects and sell units at competitive prices, and still make a profit.
To Fahey, who said the city's finances are just fine, the idea that a community can ever relax when it comes to keeping its downtown vibrant is foolish.
"You don't want to lose your momentum," he said. "From my perspective, a city that loses momentum is like having a pacifier put in your mouth."
To reach Kevin Collison, call 816-234-4289 or send e-mail to kcollison@kcstar.com.
To see more of The Kansas City Star, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.kansascity.com.
Copyright © 2008, The Kansas City Star, Mo.
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| 06/02/2008 11:44 AM |
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Bugeater
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| 06/02/2008 1:38 PM |
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Part of KC's probem is that it is split down the middle between two states, and they don't always work well together. There was a lot of bickering from the MO side when the proposed improvements to the Truman Sports Complex was going to a vote because many of the STHs are from the wealthier Kansas side. And since they didn't have to chip in for the local MLB and NFL franchise they were able to do things like getting a NASCAR track built. The Kansas side has been much more progressive since the majority of the wealth is on that side.
Nevertheless, the MO side has managed to take steps to improve the downtown area with the Sprint Center and the Power & Light District. Personally, I never cared for the idea of a downtown ballpark for the Royals, there's way too much history at the sports complex, and both facilities are classic in their architecture. In my opinion it would've been a shame to see either of them go. |
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Russell Upsomegrub
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| 06/02/2008 5:03 PM |
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What a great article, Omaha is the bomb.
What the article fails to acknowledge is the breath- taking sight of the Council Bluffs skyline at sunrise.
I just got the pee shivers, thinking about it. |
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IrememberDukester
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| 06/02/2008 9:36 PM |
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Posted By Tim in Omaha on 06/02/2008 11:06 AM
Everything's up to date in ... Omaha
By Kevin Collison/The Kansas City Star, Mo.
Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:54 AM CDT
Anyone who thinks Kansas City has gone about as far as it can go when it comes to revitalizing downtown should take a little trip upriver to Omaha.
This is a city that doesn't rest on its laurels. Just last week it was announced that a 24,000-seat ballpark would be built downtown as part of a 25-year deal to keep the College World Series.
The $127 million ballpark, likely to be designed by HOK Sport of Kansas City, will be next to the 4 1/2 -year-old Qwest Center, one of the country's more successful arenas. The Qwest Center was a major element in the ongoing revitalization of the Omaha downtown riverfront.
Later this year, a $17 million pedestrian bridge spanning the Missouri River between Nebraska and Iowa is scheduled to open linking the downtown riverfront with 150 miles of trails. The graceful bridge is next to a new 12-story condominium building, and a twin tower is about to start construction.
Those condo towers are part of a huge investment in downtown housing that has not only renovated many older buildings, but also generated plenty of new construction. The biggest project on tap is a 32-story condo and hotel tower planned by Jason Townsend, a Kansas City developer, on the site of the old Union Pacific building.
Union Pacific built a new 19-story headquarters across the street in 2004. It's not far from the $102 million Holland Performing Arts Center that was completed in 2005. The performing arts center is across from the urban park Omaha began building in the 1970s with the ultimate goal of reconnecting the downtown core with the river.
This brings us back to the ballpark, arena, pedestrian bridge, riverfront condos, etc.
Whew. Now that I've caught my breath, there's more.
Mutual of Omaha is building a $300 million mixed-use development on the west edge of downtown that will include 600 apartments and condos, and 220,000 square feet of retail, including a movie complex. The Midtown Crossing at Turner Park is scheduled to be completed late next year.
And get this, Kansas City: The next big thing being planned is a streetcar route that will link major downtown attractions including the Qwest Center; the Old Market -- a funky historic district of shops, restaurants and bars -- the central business district, and Creighton University.
Plans call for this starter line to be locally funded with an eye toward attracting federal funding for expansions down the track. Sound familiar?
There have been several mayors who've consistently pushed Omaha's downtown revitalization, but the latest is a son of Kansas City. Mayor Mike Fahey is a 1961 graduate of Bishop Lillis High School and his old home was razed to make way for Penn Valley Community College.
Fahey, like his predecessors, has benefited mightily from an almost hyperactive corporate community that continues to cooperatively push the Omaha development envelope. Remember, this is a metro area of 815,000 residents versus about 2 million in Greater Kansas City.
Civic leaders have established what's called Heritage Services to channel private donations for projects including the ballpark, performing arts center and the arena.
And by the way, Omaha has used what's unfortunately become almost a dirty phrase around here -- tax increment financing -- to assist the redevelopment boom, including the new housing projects. That's made a critical difference.
Kansas City has had success converting old buildings to housing, but constructing new condos has been tough, primarily because developers can't make the numbers work. The TIF assistance in Omaha has allowed developers to build new projects and sell units at competitive prices, and still make a profit.
To Fahey, who said the city's finances are just fine, the idea that a community can ever relax when it comes to keeping its downtown vibrant is foolish.
"You don't want to lose your momentum," he said. "From my perspective, a city that loses momentum is like having a pacifier put in your mouth."
To reach Kevin Collison, call 816-234-4289 or send e-mail to kcollison@kcstar.com.
To see more of The Kansas City Star, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.kansascity.com.
Copyright © 2008, The Kansas City Star, Mo.
Kansas City jealous? Give me a break, even a cow town like Kansas City has nothing to be jealous about, Omaha has a higher murder ratio, a river full of poop, about a billion dollars worth of sewer work to be done and no professional sports.
Besides Kansas City is less than a big city to begin with.
Now if Denver or Chicago was envious of Hickaha I would be a little more impressed.
And that view from the Qwest Center toward the north is something to behold!!!!!
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| 06/02/2008 11:14 PM |
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That's POO in the river?? All this time I thought those were Payday bars!   |
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| 06/03/2008 8:51 AM |
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| Funny that the same river flows thru Kansas City... |
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Tim in Omaha
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Posted By IrememberDukester on 06/02/2008 9:36 PM Posted By Tim in Omaha on 06/02/2008 11:06 AM
Everything's up to date in ... Omaha
By Kevin Collison/The Kansas City Star, Mo.
Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:54 AM CDT
Anyone who thinks Kansas City has gone about as far as it can go when it comes to revitalizing downtown should take a little trip upriver to Omaha.
This is a city that doesn't rest on its laurels. Just last week it was announced that a 24,000-seat ballpark would be built downtown as part of a 25-year deal to keep the College World Series.
The $127 million ballpark, likely to be designed by HOK Sport of Kansas City, will be next to the 4 1/2 -year-old Qwest Center, one of the country's more successful arenas. The Qwest Center was a major element in the ongoing revitalization of the Omaha downtown riverfront.
Later this year, a $17 million pedestrian bridge spanning the Missouri River between Nebraska and Iowa is scheduled to open linking the downtown riverfront with 150 miles of trails. The graceful bridge is next to a new 12-story condominium building, and a twin tower is about to start construction.
Those condo towers are part of a huge investment in downtown housing that has not only renovated many older buildings, but also generated plenty of new construction. The biggest project on tap is a 32-story condo and hotel tower planned by Jason Townsend, a Kansas City developer, on the site of the old Union Pacific building.
Union Pacific built a new 19-story headquarters across the street in 2004. It's not far from the $102 million Holland Performing Arts Center that was completed in 2005. The performing arts center is across from the urban park Omaha began building in the 1970s with the ultimate goal of reconnecting the downtown core with the river.
This brings us back to the ballpark, arena, pedestrian bridge, riverfront condos, etc.
Whew. Now that I've caught my breath, there's more.
Mutual of Omaha is building a $300 million mixed-use development on the west edge of downtown that will include 600 apartments and condos, and 220,000 square feet of retail, including a movie complex. The Midtown Crossing at Turner Park is scheduled to be completed late next year.
And get this, Kansas City: The next big thing being planned is a streetcar route that will link major downtown attractions including the Qwest Center; the Old Market -- a funky historic district of shops, restaurants and bars -- the central business district, and Creighton University.
Plans call for this starter line to be locally funded with an eye toward attracting federal funding for expansions down the track. Sound familiar?
There have been several mayors who've consistently pushed Omaha's downtown revitalization, but the latest is a son of Kansas City. Mayor Mike Fahey is a 1961 graduate of Bishop Lillis High School and his old home was razed to make way for Penn Valley Community College.
Fahey, like his predecessors, has benefited mightily from an almost hyperactive corporate community that continues to cooperatively push the Omaha development envelope. Remember, this is a metro area of 815,000 residents versus about 2 million in Greater Kansas City.
Civic leaders have established what's called Heritage Services to channel private donations for projects including the ballpark, performing arts center and the arena.
And by the way, Omaha has used what's unfortunately become almost a dirty phrase around here -- tax increment financing -- to assist the redevelopment boom, including the new housing projects. That's made a critical difference.
Kansas City has had success converting old buildings to housing, but constructing new condos has been tough, primarily because developers can't make the numbers work. The TIF assistance in Omaha has allowed developers to build new projects and sell units at competitive prices, and still make a profit.
To Fahey, who said the city's finances are just fine, the idea that a community can ever relax when it comes to keeping its downtown vibrant is foolish.
"You don't want to lose your momentum," he said. "From my perspective, a city that loses momentum is like having a pacifier put in your mouth."
To reach Kevin Collison, call 816-234-4289 or send e-mail to kcollison@kcstar.com.
To see more of The Kansas City Star, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.kansascity.com.
Copyright © 2008, The Kansas City Star, Mo.
Kansas City jealous? Give me a break, even a cow town like Kansas City has nothing to be jealous about, Omaha has a higher murder ratio, a river full of poop, about a billion dollars worth of sewer work to be done and no professional sports. Besides Kansas City is less than a big city to begin with. Now if Denver or Chicago was envious of Hickaha I would be a little more impressed. And that view from the Qwest Center toward the north is something to behold!!!!!
Ok I get it we cant listen to the people that live in the largest city that is closest to us, after all its not like Omaha is Boasting a world-class zoo, a celebrated community theater, multiple public art galleries and a downtown enlivened by an historic shopping district, or the fact that Omaha offers the type of top-notch attractions befitting a major metropolitan center. Easy accessibility, diverse attractions and modern convention facilities. You are right duke the KC people have no clue! But if Denver and Chicago people spoke up on how great Omaha is then we would need to stand up and take notice. Thanks for the information! 
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IrememberDukester
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| 06/03/2008 10:13 PM |
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Posted By Bugeater on 06/03/2008 8:51 AM
Funny that the same river flows thru Kansas City...
Correct but almost all the poop has sunk to the bottom by the time it hits Bellevue!
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IrememberDukester
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| 06/03/2008 10:20 PM |
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Posted By Tim in Omaha on 06/03/2008 10:36 AM Posted By IrememberDukester on 06/02/2008 9:36 PM Posted By Tim in Omaha on 06/02/2008 11:06 AM
Everything's up to date in ... Omaha
By Kevin Collison/The Kansas City Star, Mo.
Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:54 AM CDT
Anyone who thinks Kansas City has gone about as far as it can go when it comes to revitalizing downtown should take a little trip upriver to Omaha.
This is a city that doesn't rest on its laurels. Just last week it was announced that a 24,000-seat ballpark would be built downtown as part of a 25-year deal to keep the College World Series.
The $127 million ballpark, likely to be designed by HOK Sport of Kansas City, will be next to the 4 1/2 -year-old Qwest Center, one of the country's more successful arenas. The Qwest Center was a major element in the ongoing revitalization of the Omaha downtown riverfront.
Later this year, a $17 million pedestrian bridge spanning the Missouri River between Nebraska and Iowa is scheduled to open linking the downtown riverfront with 150 miles of trails. The graceful bridge is next to a new 12-story condominium building, and a twin tower is about to start construction.
Those condo towers are part of a huge investment in downtown housing that has not only renovated many older buildings, but also generated plenty of new construction. The biggest project on tap is a 32-story condo and hotel tower planned by Jason Townsend, a Kansas City developer, on the site of the old Union Pacific building.
Union Pacific built a new 19-story headquarters across the street in 2004. It's not far from the $102 million Holland Performing Arts Center that was completed in 2005. The performing arts center is across from the urban park Omaha began building in the 1970s with the ultimate goal of reconnecting the downtown core with the river.
This brings us back to the ballpark, arena, pedestrian bridge, riverfront condos, etc.
Whew. Now that I've caught my breath, there's more.
Mutual of Omaha is building a $300 million mixed-use development on the west edge of downtown that will include 600 apartments and condos, and 220,000 square feet of retail, including a movie complex. The Midtown Crossing at Turner Park is scheduled to be completed late next year.
And get this, Kansas City: The next big thing being planned is a streetcar route that will link major downtown attractions including the Qwest Center; the Old Market -- a funky historic district of shops, restaurants and bars -- the central business district, and Creighton University.
Plans call for this starter line to be locally funded with an eye toward attracting federal funding for expansions down the track. Sound familiar?
There have been several mayors who've consistently pushed Omaha's downtown revitalization, but the latest is a son of Kansas City. Mayor Mike Fahey is a 1961 graduate of Bishop Lillis High School and his old home was razed to make way for Penn Valley Community College.
Fahey, like his predecessors, has benefited mightily from an almost hyperactive corporate community that continues to cooperatively push the Omaha development envelope. Remember, this is a metro area of 815,000 residents versus about 2 million in Greater Kansas City.
Civic leaders have established what's called Heritage Services to channel private donations for projects including the ballpark, performing arts center and the arena.
And by the way, Omaha has used what's unfortunately become almost a dirty phrase around here -- tax increment financing -- to assist the redevelopment boom, including the new housing projects. That's made a critical difference.
Kansas City has had success converting old buildings to housing, but constructing new condos has been tough, primarily because developers can't make the numbers work. The TIF assistance in Omaha has allowed developers to build new projects and sell units at competitive prices, and still make a profit.
To Fahey, who said the city's finances are just fine, the idea that a community can ever relax when it comes to keeping its downtown vibrant is foolish.
"You don't want to lose your momentum," he said. "From my perspective, a city that loses momentum is like having a pacifier put in your mouth."
To reach Kevin Collison, call 816-234-4289 or send e-mail to kcollison@kcstar.com.
To see more of The Kansas City Star, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.kansascity.com.
Copyright © 2008, The Kansas City Star, Mo.
Kansas City jealous? Give me a break, even a cow town like Kansas City has nothing to be jealous about, Omaha has a higher murder ratio, a river full of poop, about a billion dollars worth of sewer work to be done and no professional sports. Besides Kansas City is less than a big city to begin with. Now if Denver or Chicago was envious of Hickaha I would be a little more impressed. And that view from the Qwest Center toward the north is something to behold!!!!! Ok I get it we cant listen to the people that live in the largest city that is closest to us, after all its not like Omaha is Boasting a world-class zoo, a celebrated community theater, multiple public art galleries and a downtown enlivened by an historic shopping district, or the fact that Omaha offers the type of top-notch attractions befitting a major metropolitan center. Easy accessibility, diverse attractions and modern convention facilities. You are right duke the KC people have no clue! But if Denver and Chicago people spoke up on how great Omaha is then we would need to stand up and take notice. Thanks for the information!
Tim,
a celebrated community theater,(what city doesn't have one?) multiple public art galleries (what city doesn't have them?) and a downtown enlivened by an historic shopping district (you mean the old market? Nothing but bars and second hand book stores and throw in an occasional tattoo parlor not to mention a distinct stench of some kind), or the fact that Omaha offers the type of top-notch attractions befitting a major metropolitan center (no pro sports). Easy accessibility, diverse attractions (wtf?) and modern convention facilities (what city doesn't have them?).
Tim for the record countless people from Omaha go to Kansas City for the weekend during the summer, I haven't heard of the opposite being true for KC residents running to Hickaha for the weekend.
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| Relocate-America's Top 100 Places to Live in 2008 didn’t list KC or Chicago ???? But it did have Omaha |
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Posted By The Hilton Family on 06/04/2008 4:00 PM
Relocate-America's Top 100 Places to Live in 2008 didn’t list KC or Chicago ???? But it did have Omaha
I think that article was referring to the 100 top places for illegals to live!!!
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Posted By IrememberDukester on 06/07/2008 5:09 PM Posted By The Hilton Family on 06/04/2008 4:00 PM
Relocate-America's Top 100 Places to Live in 2008 didn’t list KC or Chicago ???? But it did have Omaha I think that article was referring to the 100 top places for illegals to live!!!
If that were the case, Sioux City and Counciltucky would be much higher up the list.
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Posted By SeahawksSB42champs on 06/07/2008 9:18 PM Posted By IrememberDukester on 06/07/2008 5:09 PM Posted By The Hilton Family on 06/04/2008 4:00 PM
Relocate-America's Top 100 Places to Live in 2008 didn’t list KC or Chicago ???? But it did have Omaha I think that article was referring to the 100 top places for illegals to live!!! If that were the case, Sioux City and Counciltucky would be much higher up the list. And Grand Island...
Sioux City, Grand Island and CB are all way too small to be considered, hah it was Hickaha all right. One of the best places for illegals to thrive! At any given time 10,000 are driving around without insurance or a valid drivers license! Welcome to the good life!!!!
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Russell Upsomegrub
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| 06/08/2008 9:12 AM |
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I can't believe you let the Dukester bait you guys like you do.
The man lives in Iowa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's from Council Bluffs!!!!!!!!!!
The armpit of not only Iowa, but the midwest.
Counciltucky highlights:
1. Teenage girl with belly wearing bikini top and smoking Pall Malls.
2. Saturday Auction Barn
3. Less Dentists per capita than any other place on earth.
4. Even our Illegal Aliens refuse to go there.
5. Still has a freaking Drive-In Theater.
6. More likely a first cousin may also be a second cousin.
7. Most popular hair style is still the Mullett.
8. Highest rated daycare center is located in a casino.
9. The public pool is also the weekly bathin spot.
10. The tallest structure in town is a sign saying "Buy here, pay here."
11. Being articulate is using upside down similies to really drive a point home.
Dukester insulting Omaha, is like Rosie O'Donnell telling Jennifer Anniston to step up her game.
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I can't believe you let the Dukester bait you guys like you do. Even I (Russell) fall for it.
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Frankly, I wouldn't be bragging about dropping $17M on a pedestrian bridge to Counciltucky.
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Posted By Omahan on 06/16/2008 12:28 PM
I am actually desperate today.
Posted By Omahan on 06/16/2008 12:47 PM
They say...people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate.
Posted By Omahan on 07/18/2008 1:47 PM
And you have on cue demonstrated what I have hallucinated from day one in regards to you.
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I actually created Fergie in part to attack you Crit without you knowing it was me. Some of your takes were so lame that I almost came at you as myself a few time... |
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Posted By egami on 06/09/2008 7:13 AM
Frankly, I wouldn't be bragging about dropping $17M on a pedestrian bridge to Counciltucky.
Precisely -- because now all those illegals in Omaha don't need to try and hide in the backs of moving vans to travel to Counciltucky. Now all they need to do is hitch a ride to the bridge and walk from there.
Counciltucky will soon have illegals AND inbreds taking over the town...yeeeeeehahhh |
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Posted By SeahawksSB42champs on 06/09/2008 10:46 AM Posted By egami on 06/09/2008 7:13 AM
Frankly, I wouldn't be bragging about dropping $17M on a pedestrian bridge to Counciltucky.
Precisely -- because now all those illegals in Omaha don't need to try and hide in the backs of moving vans to travel to Counciltucky. Now all they need to do is hitch a ride to the bridge and walk from there. Counciltucky will soon have illegals AND inbreds taking over the town...yeeeeeehahhh
Whats the matter have they finished inbreeding in Hickaha to the point it doesn't work anymore? Egad, where is the circus going to get its next flipper boy?
Council Bluffs is more than ready to repel any onslaught of Iowa wannabees who dare venture more than a block or so on the east side of the footbridge. Now if you want to come and spend your money at the casinos "keep coming" but for the most part the winos, mentally ill, and unemployed can stay on the banks of the Gene Leahy Mall where they currently live and apparently reproduce at an alarming rate!!!
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Posted By IrememberDukester on 06/09/2008 8:52 PM Council Bluffs is more than ready to repel any onslaught of Iowa wannabees...
No, seriously...you did NOT just bust that one out...an IOWA WANNABE??? That's the most unintentionally funny thing I've read here in some time. |
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