IrememberDukester
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| 04/17/2008 9:34 PM |
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Thank you, Bill Belichick. In what is seemingly a reaction to SpyGate, the NCAA, for the first time, has formally banned the use of audio or video equipment to steal signals of an opposing team.
The rule was adopted earlier this month by the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel. It was among a large block of rules changes that were approved by the panel. The NCAA Football Rules Committee first proposed changes earlier this year. "It's actually less about Bill Belichick and more about stating the obvious, that you shouldn't be doing this," said Ty Halpin, NCAA staff liaison to the rules committee.
Rule 1-4-9-g now reads: "Any attempt to record, either through audio or video means, any signals given by an opposing player, coach or other team personnel is prohibited."
Other changes approved by the panel:
• The 40/25 play clock. A 40-second clock will begin when the ball is blown dead. If the ball is not ready to be snapped after 20 seconds, the referee shall stop the game clock and signal that the play clock be set at 25 seconds. The game clock will start at the snap. This is similar to the NFL.
Timing rules are a sensitive subject. Two years ago misguided timing rules -- since changed -- carved out approximately 13 1/2 minutes and 16 plays per game. Some coaches and administrators say the 40/25 rule will add plays to the game.
• The clock will stop on out-of-bounds play but, in a change, will restart on the referee's signal, except in the final two minutes of each half. During that time, the clock will start on the snap. Previously, the clock did not start until the snap on all-out-of bounds plays.
• On kickoffs that go out of bounds, the receiving team now has the option of putting the ball in play 30 yards downfield. On a normal kickoff, the receiving team would take over at its own 40, five yards farther downfield than previously.
• The option for a 5-yard facemask penalty has been eliminated. The penalty for twisting, turning or pulling the facemask is now 15 yards.
• Sideline infractions that were formerly warnings will now carry penalties. The first two infractions will be 5 yards for delay of game. All subsequent fouls will be 15 yards.
• Any field-goal attempt above or below the crossbar will be reviewable by instant replay. Not reviewable: Any attempt higher than the uprights.
• If successful with his first challenge, a coach gets another challenge, but no more than two total.
• The "horse collar" tackle is now prohibited.
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It's my fault," said first-year Nebraska coach Bo Pelini. "Damn right, yes, I'm embarrassed. I apologized to the team. I apologize to the state of Nebraska. I apologize to everyone associated with Nebraska football.
"It's my responsibility. I was hired to do a job and I didn't do the job, I'm just not a very good coach. |
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egami
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| 04/18/2008 7:31 AM |
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"Any field-goal attempt above or below the crossbar will be reviewable by instant replay. Not reviewable: Any attempt higher than the uprights."
And, apparently, even with the crossbar.
Horse collar thing is way overdue. I like how they mimic the NFL, on less important things like the elimination of the 5yd facemask.
The clock change will cut down on some plays and game length a bit...Are the reverting that back, seems like they changed the way that worked a couple year back maybe.
Glad to see the delay of game penalty change. |
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Bugeater
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| 04/20/2008 11:58 PM |
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| I don't understand why the changes with the facemask rules, I wonder what the reasoning is behind that. |
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egami
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| 04/21/2008 7:08 AM |
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NFL copy cat job. Like many of the rules.
Personally, I like the rule that way. It's either 15 or it isn't. The 5 yard call has always been too subjective. |
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Bugeater
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| 04/21/2008 10:58 AM |
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| I understand they were following the NFL's lead on that one, but I don't recall any major issues with the rules as they were. IMO there is a difference in inadvertently grabbing a facemask and grabbing and turning a guy's head with it. It just seems that they're fixing something that wasn't broken. |
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egami
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| 04/21/2008 11:01 AM |
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I think they did that when they implemented the rule, personally. They added subjectivity to a call that really didn't need it.
I don't know what exactly prompted the NFL to re-examine it. |
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Bugeater
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| 04/21/2008 11:13 AM |
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| So do you think what used to be a 5 yd penalty should be a no-call now? Or should they all be 15 yarders? |
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egami
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| 04/21/2008 11:49 AM |
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| Any face masking should be 15 yards. |
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vranged
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| 04/21/2008 1:05 PM |
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Holding is subjective too; a lot of officiating is.
I don't like the face mask rule change. I've never had any complaints about the way it's been called -- except in the Husker/K State game from back in the day, where Eric Crouch's helmet was turned around backwards from a face mask, and there was no call. But I'm not still bitter.... |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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SeahawksSB42champs
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| 04/21/2008 3:14 PM |
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Oh, you mean that face mask that NEVER happened??? Despite photographic evidence to the contrary???
If that referee is officiating anything beyond third-grade flag football at the YMCA, it's a damn shame. And, no, I'm not bitter, either... |
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egami
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| 04/21/2008 3:35 PM |
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Well, ultimately every call is subjective.
However, identifying a face masking occurred is a completely different level of subjectivity than the intent behind it.
You can never eliminate the elementary level of subjectivity out of it.  |
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vranged
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| 04/21/2008 3:41 PM |
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I disagree. I think a ref can see a facemask and make that determination. It won't always be right, and bad calls will be made, but as they say -- holding occurs on almost every play, but which ones do they call? I consider the facemask call to be very similar to holding....or "roughing" the kicker vs. "running into" the kicker....or pass interference v. inadvertent contact, etc.
Just my opinion. I won't hate you if you disagree (this time!!!!!). |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Crit40
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| 04/21/2008 4:36 PM |
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| Face masks are for sissies. Holding is part of the game. Pass interference is a "match-head"'s tool. And who really gives a sh!t about the kicker? |
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Counting the Herd one hoof at a time. |
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Bugeater
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| 04/21/2008 10:55 PM |
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Posted By egami on 04/21/2008 3:35 PM Well, ultimately every call is subjective. However, identifying a face masking occurred is a completely different level of subjectivity than the intent behind it. You can never eliminate the elementary level of subjectivity out of it.
I dunno. I don't ever recall watching a game and thinking "DAMN THAT SHOULD ONLY BE FIVE YARD PENALTY ON THAT ONE!", I think the refs have always been pretty good about distinguishing the two. |
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egami
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| 04/22/2008 7:39 AM |
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Posted By Bugeater on 04/21/2008 10:55 PM Posted By egami on 04/21/2008 3:35 PM Well, ultimately every call is subjective. However, identifying a face masking occurred is a completely different level of subjectivity than the intent behind it. You can never eliminate the elementary level of subjectivity out of it. I dunno. I don't ever recall watching a game and thinking "DAMN THAT SHOULD ONLY BE FIVE YARD PENALTY ON THAT ONE!", I think the refs have always been pretty good about distinguishing the two.
I agree, but then...that's not why I am against it. |
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egami
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| 04/22/2008 7:40 AM |
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Posted By Crit40 on 04/21/2008 4:36 PM
Face masks are for sissies. Holding is part of the game. Pass interference is a "match-head"'s tool. And who really gives a sh!t about the kicker?
Let's face it, your favorite sport involves men "holding" and "cradling" each other. Need I say more? |
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