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| 03/27/2008 2:09 PM |
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Ok, so I generally lean Republican, but can hardly listen to Limbaugh much mainly because he's a brain-washing puppet for the Right and rarely objective of many topics.
That being said, his whole conspiracy he concocted of "Opertaion: Chaos" had me intrigued enough to see what he was doing and how it'd pan out.
For those not in the know, and forgive me because I know enough to be dangerous on the subject since I won't listen daily, in a nutshell the goal was basically for him to motivate Republicans in Texas and other state toward the end of the caucusing to register Democrat and vote for Hillary in order to defeat Obama. His theory being that believes Hillary is the more beatable candidate for the Republicans.
Personally, I lean toward disagreeing. I think actually Obama is perhaps more beatable, but it's close enough where I can argue the Clinton vs. Obama things both ways and see both sides.
But, out of curiosity, I was wondering what other BS590 posters thought on the subject.
Personally, at this point I don't care too terribly much which of the three is President. They are essentially the same candidate to me.
I lean toward not wanting another Clinton era just because it'll have been far too long under Clinton/Bush administrations.
I like Obama that he has demonstrated the ability to reach across party lines, but I question how effective he'll be as President at that.
I may end up voting for McCain just because of his stance on Universal Healthcare and I think he is probably the best candidate for actually dealing with the mess we have in Iraq. |
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egami
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| 03/27/2008 2:12 PM |
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Also, on Operation: Chaos, it's interesting hearing a bit of speculation today by some Republican callers that this has actually backfired and that Hillary is still going to gain the Democratic nomination.
Personally, I disagree. I think that if that happens the Democrats may have uprising over a move viewed as racist if she is viewed as having stolen the nomination. But a lot of people think she can get it without that happening. |
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Fergie
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| 03/27/2008 2:57 PM |
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Bush --- Clinton --- Bush --- Clinton? This cycle must end there.
I disagree, Obama will win if he get's the nomination. His following grows daily. Look for the Governor of New Mexico to be his VP.
Hillary is an unethical joke. |
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Fergie
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| 03/27/2008 3:00 PM |
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Posted By egami on 03/27/2008 2:09 PM
His theory being that believes Hillary is the more beatable candidate for the Republicans.
Personally, I lean toward disagreeing. I think actually Obama is perhaps more beatable
Hopefully the operative word is "perhaps."
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egami
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| 03/27/2008 3:25 PM |
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Posted By Fergie on 03/27/2008 2:57 PM
I disagree, Obama will win if he get's the nomination.
I didn't say I thought Obama wouldn't win if he gets the nomination. 
Frankly, I think that either of them will be McCain. |
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Crit40
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| 03/27/2008 4:51 PM |
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Polititians are all crooks. I'm ok with McCain although I disagree emphatically with his position in Iraq. My thought process is that you go with the one who hasn't been influenced AS much by the Washington retoric and crookedness, so I'm thinking Obama if he gets the Dem knod. If not, I'll do the rock, papers, scissors thing.
The cabinet appointments are extremely important, as they will be advisors to the President. We all witnessed that the "good ol' boy" method of appointments doesn't work. Let's hope whoever it is, picks intelligent, logical individuals to head up the various governmental departments.
And when Bernacke's appointment is up, he needs to be sh!t-canned. |
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SeahawksSB42champs
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| 03/27/2008 5:21 PM |
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I don't think it's going to make a difference one way or another. From what I remember reading, all the Obama supporters are going to vote for McCain if Hitlery gets the nod, and vice versa.
Frankly...Obama is not experienced enough in world issues to be president, and Hitlery is too much of a pathological liar for me to trust her enough to vote for her for Douglas County Assistant Dog Catcher. McCain doesn't exactly have me fired up enough to vote for him either, so if the election were held today I'm really not sure which of the three evils would be worthy of my vote.
I may actually vote for Ralph Nader out of protest... |
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IrememberDukester
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| 03/27/2008 9:14 PM |
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Posted By SeahawksSB42champs on 03/27/2008 5:21 PM
I don't think it's going to make a difference one way or another. From what I remember reading, all the Obama supporters are going to vote for McCain if Hitlery gets the nod, and vice versa.
Frankly...Obama is not experienced enough in world issues to be president, and Hitlery is too much of a pathological liar for me to trust her enough to vote for her for Douglas County Assistant Dog Catcher. McCain doesn't exactly have me fired up enough to vote for him either, so if the election were held today I'm really not sure which of the three evils would be worthy of my vote.
I may actually vote for Ralph Nader out of protest...
In a recent poll 22% of B. Hussein Obamas supporters said they would not support Sybil er I mean Hillary.
While, the same percentage of Sybils, er Hillary's supporters said they would not support B. Hussein Obama.
Me thinks as the mud slinging gets more intense (and it will) the more both candidates supporters will loathe the other candidate.
My personal belief is that B. Hussein Obama's supporters are more likely to take their bat and ball and go home and not play anymore if their candidate does not get the nomination!
Operation Chaos is doing as intended!
Enough Said!
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It's my fault," said first-year Nebraska coach Bo Pelini. "Damn right, yes, I'm embarrassed. I apologized to the team. I apologize to the state of Nebraska. I apologize to everyone associated with Nebraska football.
"It's my responsibility. I was hired to do a job and I didn't do the job, I'm just not a very good coach. |
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Omahan
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| 03/28/2008 9:06 AM |
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I support Barrack Obama 100%.
This stale & politically corrupt (although not nearly as bad as other places) nation needs new blood in the white house. I actually embrace his lack of credentials. I'm tired of the mid 60ish, set in his ways type that does'nt listen.
Open mind and a new way is in order. I liked his comment regarding McCain.."He'd be an extenuation of the Bush Administration. Is that what you want?"
That comment was true enough. |
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vranged
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| 03/28/2008 1:15 PM |
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I lean Democrat, but don't want Hillary to win at all. I'm for Obama, but if he doesn't get the nod for the Dems, I'll vote for McCain. Actually, if McCain got the nod, I probably wouldn't vote, since I won't have to worry about Nebraska giving its majority to Clinton.
I actually liked Bill Clinton as President. I think he did great thiings. But the Clinton name is way too polarizing. I may take a drastic dip in IQ points for saying this, but I agree with Fergie. Anybody with the last name of Bush or Clinton has got to go.
We are in the good position of knowing that any of the three would be better than George W., (in my opinion).
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Omahan
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| 03/28/2008 4:54 PM |
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I agree with vranged...did I type that?
I was always a huge Bill Clinton guy. Just do not trust Hillary for some reason unbeknownst to myself. Obama is fresh like Clinton was when he swooped in playing the sax. Hopefully Barrack won't get freaky in the white house.
At least have the where-with-all to take it elsewhere. |
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egami
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| 03/28/2008 9:54 PM |
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The ONLY thing I think Obama has over Bill is the fact that you can't tie him to being sold out...as "fresh" as Bill came off on camera, and off camera with the interns, his most notable "bedroom" relationship was the political affiliations he carried with him into the White House. These ties are still strong with Hillary.
Outside of that...I don't see Obama as being a good Presidential candidate. If he can just stay as uninfluenced as he seems to be that'll be his best attribute.
Frankly, all three candidates are fairly week in my opinion. Each for different reasons.
However, I don't see criticizing McCain on the war...he has military experience and he understands what needs to be done logistically, but maybe those criticizing him are just in the "we need to pull out" crowd. I am all for that is a Democrat wins...their party deserves the blame for the fallout after an abrupt pullout plan as much as they've been barking about it.
We saw how well it worked with Bush Sr. and with even less stable leadership and military now I am sure it'll be worse this time around...maybe we can send the UN in and really top things off. |
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Fergie
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| 03/29/2008 8:34 AM |
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Posted By SeahawksSB42champs on 03/27/2008 5:21 PM
Frankly...Obama is not experienced enough in world issues to be president
That line will gain you stringent opposition. Most people just want change. Most people don't take firm party stances. So a viable, young, intense candidate like Obama just might listen to the people with a willing ear.
Hillary continues to take credit for her husbands accomplishments. She is a joke and is nearing time to bow out. The peace and the prosperity that Bill Clinton brought the world is over and the times have changed.
When this thing started I would've never thought I could rally behind a skinny black kid from Illinois.
But he is the best candidate in my opinion. McCain is a guy with much integrity but really is a siamese twin to Bush thinking.
Obama anyone?
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Crit40
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| 03/29/2008 8:45 AM |
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I am all for that is a Democrat wins...their party deserves the blame for the fallout after an abrupt pullout plan as much as they've been barking about it.
We saw how well it worked with Bush Sr. and with even less stable leadership and military now I am sure it'll be worse this time around...maybe we can send the UN in and really top things off.
The Middle East has been at war for thousands of years. Our going in didn't stop it and our pulling out isn't going to stop it. So the appropriate stategy is to continue to flush good money down the toilet because we want the rest of the world to think like we do, and by God were going to make it happen? I've got breaking news.......it ain't gonna happen. Whether we stay for another year or 100 years......we will not solve the problems of Middle East.
Hell, DMan and Vranged have only been battling for a little over a year or 2......we can't stop them. Imagine if the thorn had festered for a couple thousand years? Get it? |
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Fergie
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| 03/29/2008 8:50 AM |
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SCENARIO: If you put two not very smart animals in a cage and toss a huge peice of processed meat directly between them --------------- what would happen?
They would most likely begin to battle for the meat. Instinctive animals don't have brains and cannot think on the fly or out of the box. (So to speak) So they just go to war. Vranged & Omahamish are two untamed animals that don't know better and you cannot tell them that because they won't believe it.
Does that sound like George W? |
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Fergie
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| 03/29/2008 8:52 AM |
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| it does to me. Only George W always claims "God" made him do it. (or something to that effect) |
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vranged
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| 03/29/2008 12:05 PM |
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| "Peice" is not a word. Before you start calling others "not very smart animals" (how articulate!!!), might want to get that right, Einstein. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Omahan
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| 03/29/2008 12:45 PM |
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| How about using "you" in front of "might" if you want to get technical about things. |
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vranged
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| 03/29/2008 1:20 PM |
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The way I typed it is perfectly acceptable. The "you" is implied. Ask any Engish professor, idiot.
LOOK HOW FCKING DESPERATE YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!! (I capitalized and exclaimed that for you.)
If you're going to correct me, make sure it's wrong first. Again, is that all you got?
Stay down, Dwight. You're an embarrassment. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Omahan
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| 03/29/2008 1:23 PM |
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ALL CAPS and multiple exclaimation points again. I am an embarrassment.
I make you embarrass yourself.
Take a look at that post an hour from now and ask yourself if you're proud of that work?
If you are I know several outlets that can set the wheels in motion to get you some help. |
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