gmhaney
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| 02/29/2008 11:01 PM |
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| Takes 15 minutes longer. Maybe, I should leave earlier. Still, it's an issue. Thanks though. |
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gmhaney
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| 02/29/2008 11:04 PM |
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| I am in support of Creighton getting a new stadium...but, not for the CWS. Let lie what is not broken. Fix that what is. This is between Fr. Schlegel and Mike Fahey. Creighton needs a new ballfield. I got it. |
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Bugeater
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| 02/29/2008 11:06 PM |
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| I've never really compared the travel time between the two routes, but it's still a fair point. Getting stuck in event traffic on the way to the airport would not be fun. |
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Omahan
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| 02/29/2008 11:06 PM |
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You guys clearly have no concept of the revenue that the city takes in for the CWS. It is important to have ample seating to accommodate the crowds. But the business influx of retail, hotels, restaurants, etc, goes to the roof during this short period.
It kept Zestos in business for all these years. |
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Bugeater
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| 02/29/2008 11:24 PM |
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| Wrong, I DO know. The city takes in around $1.8 million in additional tax revenue during the CWS. As far as the what the hotels and other businesses take in, I could give a sh*t less. If they're making so damn much money off of it let them build the f*cking thing themselves. |
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gmhaney
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| 02/29/2008 11:26 PM |
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| I could'nt agree with you more. What was broken? It's worked for 50 years. Leave the CWS alone and Creighton needs a new ballfield. That's the way I see this. Oh...and add some toilets to Rosenblatt and extend the facade to accomodate more vendors. If the Royals have to pack up the pictures of their kids and move out...they'll take their ball and go home. Thanks for responding. This has bothered me. |
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Bugeater
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| 02/29/2008 11:37 PM |
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| Rosenblatt is old, and if even half of what I hear about it is true, then it probably doesn't make sense to renovate it. As far as what's "broken", IMO,it is the NCAA. If they would pull the stick out of their ass and let us use temporary seating, it would go a long way in making this work. But they want what they want and there's no compromising with them, and that's what is pissing me off the most about this whole deal. |
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gmhaney
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| 02/29/2008 11:38 PM |
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Right you are.
lol. Right you are. |
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gmhaney
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| 02/29/2008 11:54 PM |
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It's like a relationship with a girlfriend who thinks it will be better with someone else. If they want to go...then it's best if you just go. Before, I buy more diamonds and roses. LOL. The NCAA wants more. We can't provide it. They'll be back.
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SeahawksSB42champs
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| 03/01/2008 8:25 AM |
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| It's not only the renovation costs, but the costs in buying up the homes just to the west for that coveted "clean zone." For what it's going to cost for that, you might as well build new and let the zoo take over the Rosenblatt property, which only makes sense in the long run since the zoo is the state's top attraction and they need to expand. |
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SeahawksSB42champs
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| 03/01/2008 8:27 AM |
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| And the "it's always been there" argument is very tired -- the Yankees have "always" played at Yankee Stadium, and they're moving to new digs because the current stadium is, like Rosenblatt, past the point where it's worth throwing band-aids on it every 5-10 years. |
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Omahan
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| 03/01/2008 8:35 AM |
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Okay Bugeater, since you are the know-it-all of today. First off, with all due respect, this study was concluded by a Washington, D.C. consultant firm. As much as I like to lay my bets on the local boy, I think I'll opt this time for information from a firm that specializes in researching this type of undertaking. Not a guy who sludges in the door late at nite from slamming one too many and posts his opinion on soceital issues at 1 AM.
No disrespect.
Did you know? Omaha Royal General Manager Doug Stewart was gratified that the chamber study "supported" the Royals and was paid for by chamber funds.
Did you know? The chamber and the city worked together to formulate this plan.
Did you know? Jason Thompson, a baseball facility specialist with the consulting firm, briefed the chamber's board and
then city officials Friday on his preliminary findings. He has spent the past four years working with
officials in Nashville, Tenn., which just approved a plan for a $43 million stadium tied to $200 million in
private development.
Did you know? New jobs projected to be created from new stadium: 424
Again, I don't expect you to embrace this post with ease, hopefully you can at very least take off those dark glasses and let that opthamologist give you laser surgery to give you better vision into the future.
I'm sorry but this isn't about you and your whining about having to see some tax dollars go into a bright and progressive endeavor for Omaha. It's about the growth and sustainment of Omaha, Nebraska, my hometown.
The was a song that sang, "There ain't no good guy. There ain't no bad guy. There's only you and me and we just disagree."
I say the study is not a hoax and the stadium is not only feasable but it is going to shine like a new dime.
Money and the spending of it makes some people qeasy, I'm not one those. I don't believe in shooting myself in the foot by being conservative. I understand and embrace effective spending for the overall betterment of a company, city or whatever.
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Bugeater
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| 03/01/2008 11:22 AM |
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Just like the mayor, you sidestep the actual concerns people have and just start throwing out names and numbers like they're going to prove something.
424 new jobs? Are these full time jobs, or two week a year gigs? We're not really adding any events that aren't already here, so I fail to see how this is going to create jobs. Once again, some figures are thrown out there with little explanation behind them. I call BS.
I just fail to see how this is really going to "better" the city in any way. Yay, for two weeks a year ESPN will be here to cover an event hardly anyone watches. And before you try to tell me otherwise, with the amount of time I listen to national sports radio and that I spend on sports related message boards, I hear little, if any, talk of the CWS, yet people here act like we're hosting the friggin' Super Bowl every year. Trust me, if this event leaves Omaha, 99% of the country won't know or care. |
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Omahan
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| 03/01/2008 2:16 PM |
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Just like the typical uninformed or misinformed naysayer, you take facts derived from professional studies and turn them into scandal. When in fact, there is nothing hidden here. I personally think quite possibly too much was disclosed prior to arranging a deal with the powers that be.
After seeing Crit40 and you post all of this I began to take a hard look at what the mayors committee was doing. I honestly see very little that I object to in the consultation proposal. As far as the jobs, who cares if they are full time or part time, people get jobs. I don't think it takes too much thought to equate a baseball stadium as having many part time positions.
Nitpick - jobs? What kind of jobs? Will they be union and have bennies?
I think you highly underrate the glamour and appeal of the CWS. |
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Omahan
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| 03/01/2008 2:16 PM |
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| Double post - first one, believe it or not. |
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SeahawksSB42champs
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| 03/01/2008 2:45 PM |
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Posted By Bugeater on 03/01/2008 11:22 AM
Trust me, if this event leaves Omaha, 99% of the country won't know or care.
You're half right there, Bugs...everybody will know...unless they're living in a cave in Pakistan.
So that leaves Osama Bin Laden out... |
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Bugeater
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| 03/01/2008 3:13 PM |
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| I'm being nit-picky because I want to know what 400 jobs THAT DID NOT EXIST BEFORE this is going to create? It's a fair friggin' question, and if you are so well informed give me an answer. Until you do I'm going to keep playing the BS card. |
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Omahan
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| 03/01/2008 3:34 PM |
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Being "informed" is really what takes our opinions in different directions IMO.
I think you and the Seahawks of the world must get off that barstool and quit listening to people like Rush Limbaugh.
People who sit in a box and judge the world but have no effect on it through their own contributions bring nothing to the table in my eyes. I'm not personally judging you Bugeater because I don't know you.
What I am suggesting is that if you want answers then ask the questions to the mayors hotline that I posted or lead a rally at the City Offices demanding more information regarding this endeavor.
While you might get arrested you also might get some more information.
Until then, I will always opt to listen to those (like mayor fahey) that had the gonads to step up and be counted. Not those that judge from afar but do nothing to exact change personally.
FYI, I knew of a situation in a large city where the police chief was under scrutiny because of high crimes rates. His solution?
He made a public announcement stating that if you are a citizen that complains and blames but does nothing, then you have no voice. If you contribute by calling police and showing up in court or doing citizen patrols then you have a voice. It was and is that simple.
Get proactive.
What I am suggesting is that I am "informed" enough to know that if I am passion about an issue, I have resources or channels to have a voice.
By spewing here, it's all well and good but in essence, you have no voice except the angry echo of deceit that lingers within.
Make sense? Probably not.
As far as the jobs, I'm glad that you and I have one. |
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Bugeater
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| 03/01/2008 11:05 PM |
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| LOL, you have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Omahan
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| 03/01/2008 11:14 PM |
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Now that is funny stuff rought dare!
I didn't want to outright type that but that Bugeater is what I've been screaming all along about you.
Makes perfect sense to me...."stop whining or else do something, anything about it or else you lose your right to whine."
Makes perfect sense to me. Slide on in here ten sheets to the wind tonite and post alcohol-induced response.
I gave you publicly released facts from the study conducted and you chose to dispell and question those.
And I have no idea?
Please dude. |
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