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Subject: Congratulations Archie Manning!

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vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 3:11 PM Alert 
Well, asnwer the question. Who created nothing? I, obviously in jest, made a comment about the Mackovicka brothers. Maybe it wasn't that funny, but it was obviously intended to be that way. You, in all seriousness, said Tiki Barber won a Super Bowl when he didn't.

The only true thing you said was "I'm done." You don't get much truer than that.

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 3:18 PM Alert 
You create nothing all the time. When a person goes to website and enters a message board forum merely for the sake of arguing. Whether their point is to prove someone is wrong or just to create havoc.

In essence, you have created "nothing." And I don't apologize for stating that. You do alot of that on here. Attack mode is your forte'. You are perpetually in it.

It means nothing to most. And it means nothing to me I only point it out because you relentlessly beg for arguement.

vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 3:24 PM Alert 
I can only be me, and I like to argue. You're too big of a coward to even acknowledge who you are.

Maybe I should take your approach, and state ignorant things like "Tiki Barber won a Super Bowl", and "Nobody who knows anything about football thinks SPygate is legitimate." Is that the type of substance you want me to post -- clearly WRONG things?

Come on, Dwight.

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 3:25 PM Alert 
Join the debate team or get into a group of arguing fanaticals.
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 3:27 PM Alert 
As far as Spygate...yes. If you listen to radio, read the paper or online articles and just plain a smear of knowledge of the game. You too would know that no one lends any merit to this crap.

It is as much a part of football as are first downs and penalties.

Using Don Shula as your reference for spygate wreaks of the same substance that spygate itself does...conspiracy. Why would you want a guy that clearly has an agenda to use as a reference to lend credibility to your arguement?

vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 3:32 PM Alert 
Taping other teams is a part of football? Breaking rules is a part of football?

Steve Young doesn't think so. You keep ignoring that. Why doesn't his opinion count?

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 3:51 PM Alert 
I feel your hammer of dissent against my opinion. I do not waver though.

Steve Young in my opinion isn't being 100% forthright in his assessment of spygate. He never mentioned knowing that any of this went on while he played. Could it be that he is that one in a million boy scout that no one let in the inner circle because he would've ratted out the whole bunch? Possibly.

But I just think Steve isn't telling all he knows and saving face on camera. It took guts to do what Jaworski did.
vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 4:28 PM Alert 
What does Steve Young have to gain by lying about his opinion? Aren't you speculating? Couldn't it be that he doesn't like cheaters, which is what the Pats were, regardless of how impacting it might be on the final outcome?

I don't understand why you say it took guts for Jaworski to say what he did, when ACCORDING TO YOU, he's taking the majority position. Steve Young seems to be the one who had the guts.

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 4:37 PM Alert 
His reputation. (Or at least that is what he may believe) Aren't we all speculating? Like I said, Steve might be that one in a million boy scout that really does believe in miracles. And if that is so then so be it. But it doesn't change the facts.

The media and the public are against the Pats and spygate. The former players, coaches and generally knowlegable sports fans do not give to much creedence to it. That has been my perception.

Ron Jaworski sat on national television and said he is "ok" with something he knows many do not believe is ok. That took guts.

If you want to get down to the nitty gritty on anything you would have to pursue the roots. The roots of football were dilluted with gangsters and hoods that played with ferocious tenacity and a "win at all costs" attitude. I'm not saying it was right. It is reality.
turducken
Posts:602

02/04/2008 4:37 PM Alert 
Posted By Omahan on 02/04/2008 3:08 PM
Interacting with you is similar to taking on a tree on one ski in Belgium.

CRASH!

I'm done.




See you at the gym DOmahaMan!
vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 4:40 PM Alert 
What's the matter with Steve Young's reputation?

And, for the record, Dman used to say "hammer of dissent" ALL THE TIME. He's the only other person I've seen use that phrase.......until you.

Seriously, Dwight -- just come clean. It doesn't matter anymore. You didn't do a very good job of switching styles.

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 4:41 PM Alert 
Steve Young has been known to ruffle some feathers with his positions. On this one IMO, he is laying close to the line as possible.

A Quote from a current NFL coach:

"Our guy keeps a pair of binoculars on their signal-callers every game," says Broncos coach Mike Shanahan. "With any luck, we have their defensive signals figured out by halftime. Sometimes, by the end of the first quarter."
vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 4:49 PM Alert 
Fair enough. I respect Jaworski a lot, so maybe it's not a huge deal. But it's still against the rules, so....

And are you saying it's coincidence that the only two people i've ever seen/heard say "hammer of dissent" are you and Dman?

It's really pathetic, Dwight. You know how everyone thinks Barry Bonds is an idiot for continuing to deny steroid use? You really want to be Barry Bonds?

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 4:52 PM Alert 
So if Shanahan uses binoculars, is that okay? If a guy were to cheat on his wife, does it make it okay because he didn't get caught? The reality answer to some, yes. If he were caught on camera, he'd be busted. The reality here is hoodie got caught on camera.

I would love to know how many current coaches resent him because he brought notoreity to this norm. Now they cannot tape anymore.
vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 5:00 PM Alert 
Still cheating -- still wrong. Right? Isn't that what all the steroid people are upset about, i.e. everyone was doing it; it was accepted by baseball at the time, etc. It's not so apples and oranges, is it?

Are you going to keep up the lie of not being Dwight? My "hammer of dissent" demands an answer. Are you really saying it's just a coincidence? Spin away, Dwight -- or come clean. Seriously. Just admit it. It's time.

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
Omahan
Posts:3699

02/04/2008 5:02 PM Alert 
You'll continue to create new angles until the sun comes again and it's another day.

Have a good one.
vranged
Posts:2813

02/04/2008 5:07 PM Alert 
Just answer the question. Don't you find that to be an incredible coincidence?

After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up!
IrememberDukester
Posts:2404

02/04/2008 6:30 PM Alert 
Coincidence indeed!

It's the DMan allright,

If it looks like a rat and squeeks like a rat it's a rat more commonly known as DMan!



turducken
Posts:602

02/04/2008 9:45 PM Alert 
Ron Jaworski thinks Kareem Abdul Alcindor would make a better coach than Lenny Wilkins, Red Auerbach and Phil Jackson combined.
Blackshirt
Posts:586

02/05/2008 12:19 AM Alert 
Congrats to Archie Manning, for siring two commercial pitchmen from which there will be no escape next football season.

"Perhaps the worst thing that can happen is to reach into the refrigerator and come out with something that you cannot identify at all. You literally do not know what it is. Could be meat, could be cake. Usually, at a time like that, I'll bluff. "Honey, is this good?" "Well, what is it?" "I don't know. I've never seen anything like it. It looks like...meatcake!" "Well, smell it." (snort, sniff) "It has absolutely no smell whatsoever!" "It's good! Put it back! Somebody is saving it. It'll turn up in something." Thats what frightens me. That someone will consider it a challenge and use it just because it's in there." -- George Carlin
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