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vranged
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| 02/05/2008 11:40 AM |
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Posted By Omahan on 02/05/2008 11:32 AM
That was most evolved and articulate post yet.
Let me ask you this champ? How do you suppose intelligence and slander are related. Is there a correllation? And do you believe that you are intelligent or are you simply going through a hard time and taking it out on everyone around you?
I must tell you that if the latter is true...you have come to the right place because you are incapable of harming anyone here it would appear. Earlier you thought you were wounding egami and he informed you he didn't take you personally. I can attest to the same.
Sports is what I seek. I don't seek Dman like another troubled individual on here does. (HELLO)
So Sports brother, it's sports.
Nothing personal. I don't know you and you don't know me. That's the way it is and will remain.
You don't seek Dman, because you are Dman. Read your last post. It's the same psycho-babble b.s.
Self-deception is one thing (which you're king of, Dwight). But deceiving others -- you're not too good at it.
What's great is, I'm right. I know I'm right. Most on here know I'm right. You know I'm right, too, but you have to keep up this charade now, because like everything else about you (you're not a real man, you have deep homosexual tendencies, you don't know anything about sports, etc.), I've exposed it again and again and again. Maybe the constant bashings have splintered your personality. But just stop with the make-believe. I know you don't want to be Dwight (NOBODY WOULD WANT THAT FATE), but it is who you are. Salvage some dignity, so we can stop wasting all this time. Why are you so afraid of reality, Dwight?
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Omahan
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| 02/05/2008 11:44 AM |
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I am not deceiving anyone about anything. Reality is to me that I like sports.
I doubt that statement means much to a guy that cannot see past his own inadequacies.
I related with you yesterday because I thought you were capable of decent sports back 'n forth.
You're not. And I won't respond to your posts again. Adios Loco |
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Omahan
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| 02/05/2008 11:50 AM |
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Being right is high on your priorities list. Why is that?
Maybe you should spend an evening with a therapist examing why that is soo important to you. I would surmise that you would eminate from the session invigorated with a new sense of self and thus have the ability to come on a message board and appear normal.
If you for a moment think that people that read things on here don't expose you for the rambling, adolescent you precisely portray yourself as...then again, I pity you for what you think of yourself.
It can't be good. |
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Bugeater
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| 02/05/2008 12:21 PM |
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Posted By egami on 02/05/2008 9:51 AM
Here is another expert opinion from Vermeil: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3230854
Yeah, like I totally thought a member of the NFL coaching fraternity was going to say anything negative about another coach.
It really doesn't matter what crybaby Vermiel says, perception is reality in this case. In this era of free agency and salary caps, the Patriots are doing something that supposedly can't be done in creating a dynasty. Sorry, but to the average fan it's pretty simple math.
Questions I've yet to hear a legitimate answer to:
IF they're not getting a competitive advantage from it, WHY are they doing it?
IF they're not getting a competitive advantage from it, WHY does the NFL have a rule in place for it?
IF they're truly "teh greatest team evah", WHY risk tarnishing their legacy with such actions?
And lastly, the reason that Ron Jaworski and other talking heads are scoffing at it is to save face for their constant ass-kissing of this team. Their opinions don't mean sh*t either. |
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| 02/05/2008 12:38 PM |
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Posted By Bugeater on 02/05/2008 12:21 PM Posted By egami on 02/05/2008 9:51 AM
Here is another expert opinion from Vermeil: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3230854 Yeah, like I totally thought a member of the NFL coaching fraternity was going to say anything negative about another coach. It really doesn't matter what crybaby Vermiel says, perception is reality in this case. In this era of free agency and salary caps, the Patriots are doing something that supposedly can't be done in creating a dynasty. Sorry, but to the average fan it's pretty simple math. Questions I've yet to hear a legitimate answer to: IF they're not getting a competitive advantage from it, WHY are they doing it? IF they're truly "teh greatest team evah", WHY risk tarnishing their legacy with such actions? And lastly, the reason that Ron Jaworski and other talking heads are scoffing at it is to save face for their constant ass-kissing of this team. Their opinions don't mean sh*t either.
Your first question isn't even really the right question though.
The right question is, and what is being debated by media is:
How much of a competitive edge are they getting from this.
The answer, a resounding "very little at best". Forget the talking heads, forget the coaching fraternity...the majority of EVERYONE that has ANY valid level of NFL experience are generally largely in agreement on this.
And, on top of that, conversely NO ONE has demonstrated how it WOULD create a significant competitive edge. The burden of proof right now is really on the critics to demonstrate this and they've failed to do so.
The second question you bring up is completely contingent on the answer to the first being valid.
No, I don't expect Vermeil to throw the Pats under the bus.
It's just not generally accepted that this is a significant edge. That isn't proof, but that fact holds merit especially considering that the "antagonist" side of the discussion can't put forth a valid, demonstrable retort as to just how big of a deal this is and why. It's purely opinion and speculation without logical reason.
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Bugeater
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| 02/05/2008 12:52 PM |
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| The problem here is, the first question is the one that everyone is asking, and they're not getting an answer. At the very least it shows a gross disregard for rules by this coaching staff, and that's not good. |
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vranged
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| 02/05/2008 1:05 PM |
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Posted By Omahan on 02/05/2008 11:50 AM
Being right is high on your priorities list. Why is that?
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Yes, it is. I enjoy being right. It happens quite frequently.
I thought you were done with me? Another Dman trait -- saying one thing, and doing another.
Omahan, I may be willing to bet you $10,000 that you're Dman. I will literally subpoena records from BS590 to obtain the information necessary to prove it. I will hire an investigator to do what must be done. In the end, I know I'll come out on top. As you say, I need to be right.
I'm so sure I'm right, I'll put my money where my mouth is. Would you accept my bet? (Better ask your wife first, as I'm sure she'll be the one to have to pay it.)
Now don't do the typical Dman psycho-babble crap. Just answer the question. Would you accept my bet? Avoiding an answer will say a lot. So, would you? If you have nothing to hide, I'd think you'd want the easy $10K.
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Omahan
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| 02/05/2008 1:18 PM |
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You are a nut. That is my response and go ahead and do your investigation if it pleases you and when you find out what you need you can get what you want from it.
Did you think I would be afraid of your request? This is a message board sir and you are some kind of a nut to need to find out my identity. If anything, you are in the wrong for "stalking" me. |
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Omahan
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| 02/05/2008 1:20 PM |
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Get help Mr. vranged. BTW, if you are so hellbent for my identity and you are always the one that wants others to fess up. How about you fessing up? Why don't you post your real full name on here? If you will do that and I can confirm that is you, then I will follow suit?
Also, do you realize that you always, consistently ultimatize your solutions to problems you encounter on here?
"I'll bet you Ten kazillion buckos that you are Dman! And if you do not take the bet. I'll run with that as confirmation that I am right!"
Do you understand how childish that is?
Deal? |
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Omahan
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| 02/05/2008 1:24 PM |
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You'd better watch yourself. You are treading water in where you obviously have no understanding of perameters. Here, you are vranged and I am Omahan. That is who we are. I encourage you to pursue this legally and I promise you I will counter you and make a fool of your preposterous antics.
Making bets and taking bets isn't my style. If I were a betting man though, I would take it.
I really hope that one day you wake up and the coffee is stout and from Cambodia so that you might (just might) receive a moment of clarification that will open your eyes to your own ignorance.
You are a pathetic human being on this day. Your obsession with me is scary and I will call BS590 if it continues. |
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egami
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| 02/05/2008 1:36 PM |
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Posted By Bugeater on 02/05/2008 12:52 PM
The problem here is, the first question is the one that everyone is asking, and they're not getting an answer. At the very least it shows a gross disregard for rules by this coaching staff, and that's not good.
Regardless, if you don't want to venture from the strict verbage of the first question, the same principle applies. No one criticizing the Patriots can demonstrate that this is indeed a big deal.
The fact is, it's purely speculation at best as to IF they are and the critics can't even offer up logical speculation as to demonstrate just how much it supposedly is a big deal... |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Omahan
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| 02/05/2008 1:38 PM |
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I agree. People can relate back to the exact rules when it is advatageous for them.
Is watching an opponents signal caller with bino's okay?
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vranged
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| 02/05/2008 2:23 PM |
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Wow!!! THREE POSTS IN A ROW!!!
Ever heard "Thou doth protest too much."
Poor Dwight. He's ashamed of himself. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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Omahan
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| 02/05/2008 2:26 PM |
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| Three posts to emphasize that you have flipped your lid. I must have made my point because I see you have backed off from stalking. |
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vranged
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| 02/05/2008 2:28 PM |
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No, you didn't do anything but confirm AGAIN that you are exactly who I say you are.
Dwight, you are my btch. Be glad you didn't show up at Barret's. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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vranged
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| 02/05/2008 2:56 PM |
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Posted By egami on 02/05/2008 1:36 PM Posted By Bugeater on 02/05/2008 12:52 PM
The problem here is, the first question is the one that everyone is asking, and they're not getting an answer. At the very least it shows a gross disregard for rules by this coaching staff, and that's not good. Regardless, if you don't want to venture from the strict verbage of the first question, the same principle applies. No one criticizing the Patriots can demonstrate that this is indeed a big deal. The fact is, it's purely speculation at best as to IF they are and the critics can't even offer up logical speculation as to demonstrate just how much it supposedly is a big deal...
Another similarity to the steroid issue. Does taking steroids help you hit a baseball? Does the taping of the practices provide that much of an advantage.
I'm not arguing the merits of the argument -- just saying it's the same argument for both issues. Many of the respective arguments are apples and apples.
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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egami
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| 02/05/2008 3:25 PM |
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Those are still two very distinctly different questions to me. At least at the level that there is demonstrable, scientific evidence that the steroids do enhance physical attributes. We still don't have the equivalent pre-cursor on the other topic I don't think.
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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vranged
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| 02/05/2008 3:30 PM |
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| But some argue that enhancing physical attributes doesn't equate to improving your ability to hit a baseball. Believe that argument, or don't believe it -- but it's one that's out there. That's all I'm saying -- there are glaring similarities between many of the arguments. |
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After acknowledging that he was desperate, Dwight said "people will resort to saying things they know aren't true when they are desperate." That about sums it up! |
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egami
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| 02/05/2008 3:52 PM |
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| Yeah, I am not contesting that aspect. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM
I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Bugeater
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| 02/05/2008 5:32 PM |
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Posted By egami on 02/05/2008 1:36 PM Posted By Bugeater on 02/05/2008 12:52 PM
The problem here is, the first question is the one that everyone is asking, and they're not getting an answer. At the very least it shows a gross disregard for rules by this coaching staff, and that's not good. Regardless, if you don't want to venture from the strict verbage of the first question, the same principle applies. No one criticizing the Patriots can demonstrate that this is indeed a big deal. The fact is, it's purely speculation at best as to IF they are and the critics can't even offer up logical speculation as to demonstrate just how much it supposedly is a big deal...
If it's no big deal, why did the commish yank a first round pick over it? If it's no big deal, then the only thing you can chalk this up to is stupidity. Do you feel the Patriots coaching staff is dumb? F*ck no they aren't. They did it to get an edge, no matter how slight, and it's cheating. End of story. |
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