egami Posts:5397
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| 12/13/2007 6:58 AM |
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I've been saying all along, as well as some of you here I know, that despite my disdain for B*nds there was little to no question in my mind that MLB was just as, if not more, guilty for deliberately turning a blind eye. Eat it MLB, I love it...you guys come in and try to hang this on B*nds, the perfect fall guy, get the politicians involved and it blows up in your face. And, honestly, I'll admit...confusing the fans, and most of the analysts, by spreading the underground rumor of juiced balls was ingenious. It just didn't fool those of us who've been around lockerrooms with it used. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Bugeater Posts:971
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| 12/13/2007 8:06 AM |
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| Bleh. Thanks for reminding me not to bother turning on the radio today. |
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egami Posts:5397
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| 12/13/2007 8:09 AM |
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Yeah, that started last night really...  |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Logan Posts:2525
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| 12/13/2007 9:41 AM |
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| make barry go away. |
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dwight, refuting reality one post at a time. |
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reideen Posts:279
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| 12/13/2007 9:44 AM |
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| Clemens' name is in the report according to ESPN. More info at 2pm. |
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Crit40 Posts:2483
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| 12/13/2007 10:03 AM |
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I wonder how many Cy Youngs and "W's" their going to have to take away from Roger? Maybe just an astrisk.  |
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Counting the Herd one hoof at a time. |
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reideen Posts:279
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| 12/13/2007 10:18 AM |
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| I can guarantee it'll become a race issue. Bonds is persecuted for his use and Clemens won't have anything said about his awards. |
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egami Posts:5397
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| 12/13/2007 10:22 AM |
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| Yeah, this will get real interesting...I fully expect MLB to play dumb. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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turducken Posts:602
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| 12/13/2007 5:58 PM |
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So a guy who works for the Bosox finds a rat to roll over on a couple Yankees--no conflict of interest there!
As you were, David Ortiz. |
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Crit40 Posts:2483
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| 12/13/2007 7:29 PM |
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I just want to go on record to say I had no idea. I'm shocked at the results of this "investigation". If this report had not come out, I would still be in the dark on this steroid issue. |
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Counting the Herd one hoof at a time. |
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SeahawksSB42champs Posts:1206
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| 12/13/2007 8:27 PM |
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Baseball lost me as a fan after the 94 strike -- the fact that Bud Selig is the commissioner screams that nothing will be done with the Mitchell report with the possible exception of it being a very big coaster on Selig's desk.
The people running major league baseball aren't smart enough to run a fantasy league. A lot of talk about doing something will be done, but go ahead and bet the farm that nothing will come of the Mitchell report. |
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DMan Posts:0
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| 12/13/2007 10:03 PM |
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This thing is nauseating.
Everyone in baseball is scrambling for cover.
Selig is such lame azz. |
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DMan Posts:0
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| 12/13/2007 10:07 PM |
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NEW NAMES Chad Allen Mike Bell Gary Bennett Larry Bigbie Kevin Brown Alex Cabrera Mark Carreon Jason Christiansen Howie Clark Roger Clemens Jack Cust Brendan Donnelly Chris Donnels Matt Franco Eric Gagne Matt Herges Phil Hiatt Glenallen Hill Todd Hundley Mike Judd David Justice Chuck Knoblauch Tim Laker Mike Lansing Paul Lo Duca Nook Logan Josias Manzanillo Cody McKay Kent Mercker Bart Miadich Hal Morris Daniel Naulty Denny Neagle Jim Parque Luis Perez Andy Pettitte Adam Piatt Todd Pratt Stephen Randolph Adam Riggs Armando Rios Brian Roberts F.P. Santangelo Mike Stanton Ricky Stone Miguel Tejada Ismael Valdez Mo Vaughn Ron Villone Fernando Vina Rondell White Jeff Williams Todd Williams Steve Woodard Kevin Young Gregg Zaun PREVIOUSLY LINKED Manny Alexander Rick Ankiel David Bell Marvin Benard Barry Bonds Ricky Bones Paul Byrd Ken Caminiti Jose Canseco Paxton Crawford Lenny Dykstra Bobby Estalella Ryan Franklin Jason Giambi Jeremy Giambi Jay Gibbons Troy Glaus Juan Gonzalez Jason Grimsley Jose Guillen Jerry Hairston Jr. Darren Holmes Ryan Jorgensen Wally Joyner Gary Matthews Jr. Rafael Palmeiro John Rocker Benito Santiago Scott Schoeneweis David Segui Gary Sheffield Derrick Turnbow Randy Velarde Matt Williams |
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egami Posts:5397
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| 12/14/2007 7:05 AM |
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| Pettitte and Clemens have both been mentioned before. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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Logan Posts:2525
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| 12/14/2007 10:22 AM |
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| fire them all. players, coaches, gm's and especially bud selig. |
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dwight, refuting reality one post at a time. |
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Crit40 Posts:2483
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| 12/14/2007 5:56 PM |
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| The shorter list would be who isn't on it. |
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Counting the Herd one hoof at a time. |
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egami Posts:5397
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| 12/14/2007 6:08 PM |
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This whole thing is ridiculous. They should have never released the names if they couldn't garner enough evidence for endictments and prosecution. This was a complete cheap shot with no way for guys to defend themselves and everyone will assume they are guilty...which, most of them may be and likely are, but it's ridiculous...and I GUARANTY, that's not half the real list. Court of public opinion is where MLB has decided to place its case. |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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DMan Posts:0
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| 12/14/2007 6:24 PM |
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What's odd about this whole thing to me is that next year's baseball season will not suffer from it.
Factually, (at least in my mind) MLB will find itself much better off as a result of this thing.
Listen, for most of us that keep up with a tidbit or two, this isn't news...I mean really?
Is there anything being layed out now that shocks any of you?
Par for the course to me. |
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Crit40 Posts:2483
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| 12/14/2007 7:42 PM |
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Here's what I don't get about the names on this list. If I were accused of using an illegal substance, and I truly didn't, you can be damn sure that I "personally" would be holding a press conference immediately countering these allegations. I wouldn't be doing so through a spokesperson or attorney, I would be out there personally answering questions and getting the truth out.
If I were indeed innocent, I wouldn't have someone speaking for me.
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Counting the Herd one hoof at a time. |
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egami Posts:5397
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| 12/14/2007 7:54 PM |
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| Are you referring to someone directly? |
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Posted By Omahan on 11/04/2008 2:24 PM I've worked very hard to become your friend egami. |
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